Postive Covid19 Test at CSI / BCAPL event

Texas Carom Club said:

This is the truth no one wants to hear
I know several nurses here
One was at the bar with us saying people are just over reacting

Another sends me covid memes daily

Scaring everyone, which is pretty easy it seems , is the real danger

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This.

Here's the link to the CDC along with plenty of other links to get informed. Note how all precautions read just like the normal flu (identically so far with an unknown to warm water).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

I'm not an investor but I went digging anyway into who is making the $$$ with this, I found that I'm not an investor for a reason :-/. Excluding every obvious player who is making serious $$$ off of this 2,000,000,000,000+ ordeal, I couldn't find one that wasn't obvious...not 1. In fact, it looks like money is being lost by every hand not in that 2 trillion dollar pot.

Now if the hype dies soon, then it's obviously a 2 trillion dollar pump and dump, but if it continues longer than 3 weeks, it looks like many investors will be loosing money. I'm expecting the "Don't worry", "We got it under control" or something like that in about 2 weeks, if it doesn't happen, then this virus isn't one of mortality anymore.

It's a blind tactic I know, but I'm keeping an eye on the fatality rate to predict an "ALL CLEAR"

As of today in the USA...

4226 cases.
75 deaths.
75/4266 = 0.01758087201125175808720112517581

Yesterday it was...

3487 cases.
68 deaths.
68/3487 = 0.019501003728133065672497849154

... a difference of 0.00192013171688130758529672397819.

We're officially now UNDER 2%, all in a matter of days.

This rate of change has been constant the last 5 days. If it remains for 5 more days, which I suspect, then the fatality rate will drop below 1% and then I'm curious to what can prolong the hype (besides hoping people remain ignorant).

Cron said:

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As of today in the USA...

4226 cases.
75 deaths. ...

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"As of Tuesday evening, at least 5,587 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, according to a New York Times database, and at least 101 patients with the virus have died." NY Times about 1½ hours ago.

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"As of Tuesday evening, at least 5,587 people across every state, plus Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories, have tested positive for coronavirus, according to a New York Times database, and at least 101 patients with the virus have died." NY Times about 1½ hours ago.

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I'm seeing slight increases and decreases too here and there, but I'm going by the CDC as that is the source everyone is pulling from (unless NY Times as a more reliable non-disclosed source, which is possible). Anyways, the CDC source is updated daily at noon.

But NY Times or CDC numbers... I'll believe either, as both show the trend.

Lastly, hiding from it in any other manner besides that of which you would for the normal flu is futile. Just like the normal flu., it has reached everywhere.



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Still think hiding in any way is going to work? If you're sick, just stay home like normal.
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Texas Carom Club said:

This is the truth no one wants to hear
I know several nurses here
One was at the bar with us saying people are just over reacting

Another sends me covid memes daily

Scaring everyone, which is pretty easy it seems , is the real danger

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I hope you don't have any family or close friends that are:

Ederly

or

Fighting diseases that cause weak immune systems.....diabetes etc...etc


Jeff

sixpack said:

I agree with you in this to a point.
1) I think we should do what is going to save the most lives.
2) the more we flatten the curve the more damage will be done to the economy
3) this will be a huge opportunity for all of us ontheother side. America will rebuild better and stronger and most likely will accelerate moving manufacturing back onshore. This will be a huge boost for the middle class.

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The people at the top and big industry will win. Joe public will be busted. When it all goes away I agree there will be opportunity, but not for all.

jay helfert said:

If this is true, then every player and fan who attended the event (which continues today) may have to be tested if they begin to show symptoms. I see some people on here who are still making light of this crises, but they must not be paying attention to what is happening nationally and in the world at large. This is not a laughing matter! Just because some people might fare better than others (20% is the best estimate, leaving 80% seriously ill) is no reason to act like it's no big deal if a few thousand older people (and some younger) die. And I'm being conservative when I say only a few thousand.

I will only add once more that the numbers of those infected (which is already beginning to rise rapidly) will increase exponentially when the testing is ramped up to where it needs to be. I wonder how many who return from Vegas will have been infected with this virus. It will be irresponsible for them to then endanger those they come in contact with, even if they are not symptomatic.

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The conservative estimates are 440,000 to 1.5 million Americans. This is why all this is being done.

Well, I always thought there were more older people in the forum. I guess not cause anyone over 60ish would most certainly feel threatened. And that's if your 60ish or older and healthy. What abiut the older folks that are not in the best of health?

I'll be the first to say:


I hope all of this blows over quick and proves to have been blown out of proportion.

I TRULY HOPE THAT'S THE CASE!

Things is, why would I gamble with my loved ones lives by not looking at it as "BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY".....?????


Jeff

SBC said:

The people at the top and big industry will win. Joe public will be busted. When it all goes away I agree there will be opportunity, but not for all.

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Everything ends ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ way.

It's always been that way and it will always be that way.

Jeff

Joe_Jaguar said:

You have those percents just a bit backwards.

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You're correct, thank you. Up to 80% will fare okay and the virus will be like a bad cold or even more mild than that. For about 20% it will be life threatening. Still a very high number if it turns out over 500,000 in the USA have been infected (that would mean appro. 100,000 in danger).

jay helfert said:

You're correct, thank you. Up to 80% will fare okay and the virus will be like a bad cold or even more mild than that. For about 20% it will be life threatening. Still a very high number if it turns out over 500,000 in the USA have been infected (that would mean appro. 100,000 in danger).

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Death rate is around 3%.
It's around 6% in Italy because they have a very old population .
Life threat is nowhere near 20%.

Flu death rate is around 1/4 of a percent .

JoeyInCali said:

Death rate is around 3%.
It's around 6% in Italy because they have a very old population .
Life threat is nowhere near 20%.

Flu death rate is around 1/4 of a percent .

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I disagree. Several medical experts have used that number for people who will be ill enough to be hospitalized, and off those perhaps as many as 5% (1/4 of them) could die. That's a pretty high percentage imo. 5% of 500,000 is 25,000 deaths. Let's hope that is not the outcome here. Now that they have just begun more full scale testing in some areas we will get a more realistic view of what to expect.

Positive Covid 19 Test CSI/BCAPL Event

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We Have Another Pearl Harbor Moment Confronting Us.

At this moment, we are faced with what happened on December 7, 1941.

I was not born until the war ended but obviously grew up in that post war
economy. As and a young boy, stories of the war and sacrifice at home
were told and repeated countless times. My mom would recount stories
about food rationing, scrap metal programs and feed the troops programs.

What I am getting at is that horrible day back in 1941 led to the forging of
our nation’s will to prevail when confronted with daunting circumstances.
And we responded as a nation, not as any single political party. We came
forth united in our commitment to protect our nation from the attack taking
place. And we had just been hit hard by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. Any
other nation would have struggled to recover, let alone respond but that’s not
how this nation......my nation........your nation............our nation is built. Nope.

We took the blow, got off the canvas, and said, “Is that the best ya got?” And we
united coming together as people of different races, creeds religions, genders or
preferences....I mean everyone assembled and embraced what this country was
founded upon.............”e pluribus unum”.......it’s written on our currency......it is
our nation’s motto........” out of many, one”......can we all get behind that once again?

This is just such a moment. And I pray and hope we all can reacquire that spirit.
Let us unite and behave for the greater good for without that, our nation......nay,
mankind is at such severe peril that our world may never resemble what we’ve
come to expect and enjoy..........Yes, the situation is that serious.

I pray that all of the readers of this remain safe & their family & loved ones are spared.

Matt B.

jay helfert said:

If this is true, then every player and fan who attended the event (which continues today) may have to be tested if they begin to show symptoms. I see some people on here who are still making light of this crises, but they must not be paying attention to what is happening nationally and in the world at large. This is not a laughing matter! Just because some people might fare better than others (20% is the best estimate, leaving 80% seriously ill) is no reason to act like it's no big deal if a few thousand older people (and some younger) die. And I'm being conservative when I say only a few thousand.

I will only add once more that the numbers of those infected (which is already beginning to rise rapidly) will increase exponentially when the testing is ramped up to where it needs to be. I wonder how many who return from Vegas will have been infected with this virus. It will be irresponsible for them to then endanger those they come in contact with, even if they are not symptomatic.

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Can we give those that attended and still there some consideration for taking
precautions to minimize contamination? They, making the most of it and putting best
practice's in play gives them experience that just could be the new normal for some time to come.

How can it not be first priority of all attending to test first thing, seems a requirement,
maybe even a courtesy of the Rio, if test are readily available.
Of course I'm sure you understand that if the impeachment necessity were not the
main and only thing important in December this tournament would of completed with
many of your stories citing many incredible shots for the win. :wink:

Any stats on, because of the cautions taken, maybe, 80% were saved from China 19
due to the extortionary hygiene these players exhibited?

… rough guess on that part, anything?

I haven't read yet beyond your post, hope to find Darren dealing with it in reasonable shape..

Dan_B said:

Can we give those that attended and still there some consideration for taking
precautions to minimize contamination? They, making the most of it and putting best
practice's in play gives them experience that just could be the new normal for some time to come.

How can it not be first priority of all attending to test first thing, seems a requirement,
maybe even a courtesy of the Rio, if test are readily available.
Of course I'm sure you understand that if the impeachment necessity were not the
main and only thing important in December this tournament would of completed with
many of your stories citing many incredible shots for the win. :wink:

Any stats on, because of the cautions taken, maybe, 80% were saved from China 19
due to the extortionary hygiene these players exhibited?

… rough guess on that part, anything?

I haven't read yet beyond your post, hope to find Darren dealing with it in reasonable shape..

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I would respond if I understood what you're talking about. You're all over the board here. I will only say this. Those that attended and stayed until the end today have endangered all the people they come in contact with when they return home. They haven't done anyone any favors by staying until the end. And this event is a black mark on the CSI. They had a chance to cancel on the weekend and they chose to continue on until the last casino was closing!

One more thing. I know this is a mostly non pool related subject and more about health concerns than anything else. IMO this is an exception to the rule. AZB is a public forum that reaches thousands of people and is a useful outlet for communication in an emergency like this. I'm glad that this and other threads are being kept open to discuss this on here. What we are seeing and will continue to see in the weeks ahead is a crises unlike anything most of us have seen in our lifetime. I'm 75 and I've never seen anything quite like this, and I've been present for everything since the assassination of JFK, when the entire nation went into mourning for weeks. That and 9/11 top the list of American tragedies and calamities that I've witnessed and even those pale in comparison to what we are facing now. I've never seen this entire country being shut down, which is taking place as we speak.

How do you know it wasn't safer to be at the Rio than any other place that they may have been if not at the Rio/BCA?

Dan_B said:

How do you know it wasn't safer to be at the Rio than any other place that they may have been if not at the Rio/BCA?

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EVERY medical expert has said repeatedly to a stay away from crowds, and all across the country local, state and the federal government were banning gatherings of more than 250 people, than it quickly went down to 50 people and now it's 10 people. In addition these same experts have been saying to keep a safe distance apart for several days now. Does that answer your question?

...and all those events developed during the show that was in play when the tables were put up.

Dan_B said:

...and all those events developed during the show that was in play when the tables were put up.

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They could have stopped that tournament at any time. The NBA canceled games when the arenas were full and the players were on the court getting ready to play! Do you work for CSI? They made a mistake continuing this event as long as they did imo.

well, OK, they made a mistake in your opinion
comparing CSI to the NBA …
is OK too,
and no, just a member.