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09-10-2019, 01:39 PM

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If you see the tangent line standing up, then all you need to do is go down on the center of the cue ball.
You will be dead on if your tangent line is correct.
Why then complicate the whole process ?
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09-10-2019, 01:45 PM

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If you see the tangent line standing up, then all you need to do is go down on the center of the cue ball.

You will be dead on if your tangent line is correct.

Why then complicate the whole process ?
If that worked for me I would be doing it. Im tall so having more visuals ensures my perception is accurate. Im not a cte only guy. I think of your game is excelling then stick to what works for you. A great player i know said he sees the path the cue ball is taking. That's what cte helps me with. It could also be that if your vision is not great then cte or similar systems help find the shot line.

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09-10-2019, 02:38 PM

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If that worked for me I would be doing it. Im tall so having more visuals ensures my perception is accurate. Im not a cte only guy. I think of your game is excelling then stick to what works for you. A great player i know said he sees the path the cue ball is taking. That's what cte helps me with. It could also be that if your vision is not great then cte or similar systems help find the shot line.

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If your eyes are bad, I have no idea how you can aim the side or center of the cue ball to ABC in the OB then pivot.


  
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09-10-2019, 03:16 PM

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If your eyes are bad, I have no idea how you can aim the side or center of the cue ball to ABC in the OB then pivot.
My eyes are not bad but not perfect either. But ccb to edge of ob and cb edge to ab or c is easier to get right for me. I dont conciously aim directly at a b or c. But I do seem to be able to play good with different systems. But i still say go with whatever works for a person. I say put your money wher your mouth is and less arguing. Thats what great players do. Are you in the fargo rate sys.


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09-10-2019, 03:49 PM

Then your eyes are better than mine because there is no way for me to see the edge of cb to any point in the ob accurately.


  
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09-10-2019, 04:49 PM

I see the CTE crowd has just not been getting enough attention lately, lol.

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09-10-2019, 04:51 PM

What all this tells me is that 4,000 buyers (x2) wasted their money on DVDs that no longer represent what they thought and never worked in the first place.

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09-11-2019, 02:02 AM

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I see the CTE crowd has just not been getting enough attention lately, lol.

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09-11-2019, 09:44 AM

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I will wiegh in. The advantage of a solid system like cte or similar is your confidence goes up because once the system is learned, consistancy goes up. Thus you are not focusing so much on pocketing the ball but shift to what you want to do with the cueball. The stroke also improves because you can let the cue go knowing the ball is going in. This unleashes more possibilities of position play.

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Hey thanks for the reply. I have tried to follow some YT videos on CTE, just can't get it to make sense with all the different info out there. Anyway, I guess when it comes to things like speed control and positioning, it really does come down to HAMB.
  
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09-11-2019, 09:46 AM

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Where and when do you work in the pivot? Do you pivot to the spot on the CB where you will "impart" the necessary jazz on the CB to get your desired poz?
I have wondered about this as well...
  
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Hey thanks for the reply. I have tried to follow some YT videos on CTE, just can't get it to make sense with all the different info out there. Anyway, I guess when it comes to things like speed control and positioning, it really does come down to HAMB.
Cte brings you to the shot line. Adjustment for english is required at times on any aiming system. This can be accomplished with a deminished pivot. Check out lil chris My take on cte on yt

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Cte brings you to the shot line. Adjustment for english is required at times on any aiming system. This can be accomplished with a deminished pivot. Check out lil chris My take on cte on yt

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How is the adjustment made?
  
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How is the adjustment made?
How do you adjust for english when you aim? I think it depends on a few variables. The type of shaft, the speed of the shot, and the contact point on the cb. I normally pivot from closer to ccb when applying english.

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How do you adjust for english when you aim? I think it depends on a few variables. The type of shaft, the speed of the shot, and the contact point on the cb. I normally pivot from closer to ccb when applying english.

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