Shaft conditioner

chefjeff

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Yes they are. I don't mind the blue look of my shaft, so if u want to just slick the shaft up try a dry magic eraser pad. It works like a charm and only cost about a buck. Use as needed

Then some put actual wood conditioner on the shaft and lightly sand that in. Then some add cue wax to make it slick, even.

Some never touch their shafts and let nature condition it.


Jeff Livingston
 

Ghosst

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Runny noses, exhaustion, confusion, euphoria, headaches, dilated pupils, tears, anxiety, muscle fatigue, insomnia, numbness of the skin, and liver or kidney damage are also all side effects of late nights playing pool.

Just FYI...
 

Tooler

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Cue Silk....

Hot Washcloth, wrung out as much as you can get, 1-2 quick swipes, paper towel rapid til dry, then fold up a clean paper towel, to about a 3-4 inch piece, drop 5-8 drops of cue Silk onto paper towel, then rub that ***** out. Get it warm, all the while rotating it with your other hand.

I've been doing this for 15+ years, and Never had any issues. Smooth as Silk.


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mortuarymike-nv

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slick

I'm looking for a shat conditioner!
I want my shaft to be as slick as can be. It's a maple shaft, not a laminated, or revo, etc.

I try to sand my shaft as seldom as possible, but when I do I go up to #3200. Most people when they try my cue can't believe how slick the shaft is. BUT I WANT MORE!!!

Problem is, even after cleaning, sanding, sealing, waxing (which is, by the way, a very time consuming process) after a day of extensive use, I pass through the finish and an accumulation of debris (?) occurs. I then wipe the shaft with damp paper towel and reburnish, but it doesn't come back exactly the way I like it.

Most of my tournaments are held on 2 days, and having to re-wax a shaft is such a pain the a$$.

*Note that I play with a glove and I tend to have sweaty palms.

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Last two days, I played with silicone on my shaft: spray on a paper towel, rub slowly on shaft, let sit 5 minutes, remove excess with microfiber cloth, let sit 5 minutes, play!

The result is a very very verrrrrrrry slippery finish (almost oily/wet) and it lasts a bunch! Keep shooting you ideas and I'll let you know about how silicone performs over the long run.


Glove up.... nothing is smother stroke then a glove.
When sealers and waxes are not enough mainly due to the players hands excessive sweating ,then most of those players op to use a glove.

I am pretty picky about how shafts come out of my shop , least the solid maple shafts .
Lighter fluid and wax does a great job for awhile .After so many hours of play most shafts get sticky .
Yes its a pain in the ass even if you have some lathes I don't know of any single product that will keep the shaft super slick for anything over 40 hrs of playing time.


Wood conditioners normally don't make the wood surface slick , actually its opposite and the shaft is stickier because the shafts surface is smoother.

The smoother the surface the more contact area , more contact area , equals more drag or resistance .

Try a synthetic polymer car wax ..
Has the hardest surface and highest melting point , and use a glove with it ...
 

mortuarymike-nv

mortuarymike-nv
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All nighters

Runny noses, exhaustion, confusion, euphoria, headaches, dilated pupils, tears, anxiety, muscle fatigue, insomnia, numbness of the skin, and liver or kidney damage are also all side effects of late nights playing pool.

Just FYI...

Ya but those were the days , party till you throw up and play pool .





Making your own Carnauba car wax .

I had a neighbor that made his own brand of Car waxes and sold it to detail shops for decades in southern California .

His hands tingled all the time , even after not making car wax for 15 years .
 

Ralph Kramden

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Yes they are. I don't mind the blue look of my shaft, so if u want to just slick the shaft up try a dry magic eraser pad. It works like a charm and only cost about a buck. Use as needed
......this.......

You can get a whole box of generic magic eraser at the dollar store.
Rub the shaft just enough to get the grime off. Wipe 'er down with a
soft cloth. That's it. Good for cleaning those burn spots off a CB too.

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Sealegs50

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Some never touch their shafts and let nature condition it.

I never apply anything to my shafts and only clean with a cotton cloth or burnish with a piece of leather if I feel dirt on them. Fortunately, my hands are not sweaty, so I don't have to battle that problem. After owning a South West cue for about 15 years, I had sent the shafts back to SW for new tips. Laurie asked me what finish I used on my shafts because they liked it in the shop. I told her that was my hand oil and reminded her that when I bought the cue, she said she would take it away from me if I ever mistreated it.
 

MalibuMike

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Tiger S4 Sealer!

It will never let you down!

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3kushn

AzB Silver Member
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Slip Stick is what you want but no longer available.
Silicone for Cue Builders is a huge no no. I think mostly for their finish. They don't want the stuff within 10 miles of their shop. Auto Mfg Plants ban anything with silicone. It travels miles once let out of a can.

Best thing is don't bang your shaft, minimal sanding (only when you goof up) let the oils from your fingers do the work. 600grit is a harsh piece of paper, If you're not banging your cue every stroke.

The guy with the Southwest Cue has it right. If you have to sand a dent, spit and 1000+ grit.

If you must sand. 1500 or higher.

Add Patience
 

Sensation

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How old are therp? I've had great luck with a littl pledge, paper towel rubbing to heat, when shafts are new, and then just damp paper towels after play-and any time needed.

I'vee heard talk pledge softens the wood, but I don't use a lot and don't bump my shaft into things..anymore.

I used to use Pledge also. It was also very easy: spray some on a rag, rub, remove excess, good to go. I'll give this a try again soon.

Pledge is known to be made of silicone and the woodworking world who -according to my recent reads- doesn't like silicone at all.
 
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Sensation

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A clean, fine-sanded shaft, followed by Cue Slik with a paper towel. Then, the cue papers, one by one. All by hand. Then, rub it good, play with it, keep the hands clean. After years of sanding sealers, shaft conditioners, wax (a no-no), this is the one that does it.

All the best,
WW

What is sanding wet with cuesilk on the surface is supposed to accomplish?
 

Sensation

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Years ago, when my shafts became dirty/rough, and cleaning with bleaching powder/damp rag raised the grain, after sanding with progressively finer grades of auto body sandpaper I would seal the maple with linseed-based gun stock finish. But, it darkened the wood and made the grain lines stand out. I recently tried Tiger S4 sealer, and was very impressed with the result. Leaves a very light, glass-hard surface. Burnishing frequently with an old/hard piece of chamois sprayed with silicon (I play with a glove) keeps them clean & slick.

I'll look into that shaft sealer for sure. It's been recommended a lot around here.

What kind of silicone do you use specifically? Link please.
 

Sensation

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Then some put actual wood conditioner on the shaft and lightly sand that in. Then some add cue wax to make it slick, even.

Some never touch their shafts and let nature condition it.


Jeff Livingston

Sanding wet, and then wax over it? I don't get it...? Why?
 

Sensation

right there
Silver Member
Glove up.... nothing is smother stroke then a glove.
When sealers and waxes are not enough mainly due to the players hands excessive sweating ,then most of those players op to use a glove.

I am pretty picky about how shafts come out of my shop , least the solid maple shafts .
Lighter fluid and wax does a great job for awhile .After so many hours of play most shafts get sticky .
Yes its a pain in the ass even if you have some lathes I don't know of any single product that will keep the shaft super slick for anything over 40 hrs of playing time.


Wood conditioners normally don't make the wood surface slick , actually its opposite and the shaft is stickier because the shafts surface is smoother.

The smoother the surface the more contact area , more contact area , equals more drag or resistance .

Try a synthetic polymer car wax ..
Has the hardest surface and highest melting point , and use a glove with it ...

I get you when you point out that the slicker, the more drag there is. BUT! Since I use a glove, I feel like the slicker, the better. Even a well maintained Cuetec (not very porous?) slides very well in a glove.

I've been on the verge of buying a can of this wax for years because of you ... I'll probably give it a go once and for all. Thanks!

*Do you still recommend applying lighter fluid in huge quantity over a spinning-like-crazy shaft? What brand of lighter fluid?
 

Sensation

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Slip Stick is what you want but no longer available.
Silicone for Cue Builders is a huge no no. I think mostly for their finish. They don't want the stuff within 10 miles of their shop. Auto Mfg Plants ban anything with silicone. It travels miles once let out of a can.

Best thing is don't bang your shaft, minimal sanding (only when you goof up) let the oils from your fingers do the work. 600grit is a harsh piece of paper, If you're not banging your cue every stroke.

The guy with the Southwest Cue has it right. If you have to sand a dent, spit and 1000+ grit.

If you must sand. 1500 or higher.

Add Patience

I'll bet whatever you want that SlipStic is exactly this, this, or that.
 
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chefjeff

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Sanding wet, and then wax over it? I don't get it...? Why?

Wet?

No, I was speaking of using real wood sealers/conditioners like woodworkers uses to seal wood's pores. This can keep the chalk out, etc. It is used on more than cues. It is part of the finishing process for most wood items.

Then, there are the cleaners and slicker-upper products that follow that one, if those are even needed.

I just didn't understand the first post and what it was asking.



Jeff Livingston
 
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