What is lowballing?

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bowiebill

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Assuming someone doesn’t say “firm” with their price, at what point is an offer lowballing? 10%, 20%, 40% less than asking price? At what percent less than asking price are you lowballing?

I’m also assuming the initial asking price is within the market range for the cue.
 
cuesblues

cuesblues

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Any offer is an offer in my opinion.
A low offer is at least an offer, and the beauty of sales is to be able to say yes no or counter.
Never understood why people get upset with low-ball offers, then refer to people as tire kickers.
The tire kickers are the only guys buying cues, I love the tire kicker.
I'm a deal maker and I believe in my ability to make good deals, so I love any offer.

The ridiculous trade offers are another story
I've turned down over 400 trades this year, and agreed to maybe six.
No wonder people write "no trades" on their sale listings.
What are people thinking?

Peace
 
ghost ball

ghost ball

justnum survivor
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cuesblues said:
Any offer is an offer in my opinion.
A low offer is at least an offer, and the beauty of sales is to be able to say yes no or counter.
Never understood why people get upset with low-ball offers, then refer to people as tire kickers.
The tire kickers are the only guys buying cues, I love the tire kicker.
I'm a deal maker and I believe in my ability to make good deals, so I love any offer.

The ridiculous trade offers are another story
I've turned down over 400 trades this year, and agreed to maybe six.
No wonder people write "no trades" on their sale listings.
What are people thinking?

Peace
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Spot ****in on bro!
 
Cracktherack

Cracktherack

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Will you take $250. for the Scruggs? No seriously, I'd be willing to give you $500 for it.
 
KRJ

KRJ

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I usually "low ball" only the amount he's on the high end. Thus, If I know that is an $800 cue all day, and he's asking $1000, then I"m gonna offer $600, not to low to be insulting but gives me equal footing in the negotiations. He has room to move asking $1000, well, I do to if I start at $600.
 
ideologist

ideologist

I don't never exaggerate
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If you want something for a price, offer that price.

If you don't want to sell for that price, don't sell for that price.

Commodities brokers don't get offended, they just buy or sell.
 
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CCCue

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I don’t care what someone offers because I can just say no. Also, there really isn’t anything I need in life so if I’m buying then often getting what I perceive as a good deal is as important as actually buying the item. Also, I think about resale value. Don’t want to pay much more than I can resell it for later.

Problem is people mistake a fair offer for lowballing because they have an overstated estimate of value for their item.
 
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$TAKE HOR$E

$TAKE HOR$E

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If I have something for sale I dont care if someone pm's asking if they can have it as long as I cover the shipping...:grin: any interest is better than no interest. Ive sold lots of cues for far less than theyre worth and have ended up dealing with those same people again, so sometimes the risk is worth the reward. There really are some complete assholes when it comes to prices tho...smh

More often than not the when the "low ball" card is thrown its because those people dont want to talk to others, or maybe dont have time who knows
 
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mvp

mvp

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ChicagoRJ said:
I usually "low ball" only the amount he's on the high end. Thus, If I know that is an $800 cue all day, and he's asking $1000, then I"m gonna offer $600, not to low to be insulting but gives me equal footing in the negotiations. He has room to move asking $1000, well, I do to if I start at $600.
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Real logic!
 
HUKIT

HUKIT

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I’m not a fan of making an offer to seller below what they’re asking but I will ask what they’re “willing” to sell the item for. If I feel it’s fair I’ll accept it or move on but I won’t barter back and forth.
 
cuesblues

cuesblues

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HUKIT said:
I’m not a fan of making an offer to seller below what they’re asking but I will ask what they’re “willing” to sell the item for. If I feel it’s fair I’ll accept it or move on but I won’t barter back and forth.
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You were excellent to work with
Thank you
 
jimmyco

jimmyco

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If it's a fair price, I pounce. If I am unsure about the particular item, I will ask if there is wiggle room and let the seller come down.

Lowballing on the 'net might not be a problem for most. Where it is a problem is on face to face sales. Don't waste others' time.
 
Celophanewrap

Celophanewrap

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mvp said:
Real logic!
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Good logic yes, but I think you have to be careful with this strategy. If your lowball is
too lowball then you’re not taken seriously, sometimes even if you come up to a
reasonable price, or your lowball may be taken as an insult. If it’s something you’re
really considering, a lowball offer may get you no response.
I think it’s good logic, you just have to be careful with such logic
 
HUKIT

HUKIT

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cuesblues said:
You were excellent to work with
Thank you
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Just keep posting that Runde porn and I’ll be back! I appreciate you taking the time to chat about the behind the scenes of selling cues. It was interesting how it compares to Firearms.
 
classiccues

classiccues

Don't hashtag your broke friends
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As irritating as lowballing is... I have learned to cope better with it. If someone offers me lets say $ 800.00 for an item I have listed at $ 1500.00 I counter with $ 2200.00.... If they question it, I say.. hey' we are negotiating and there is no rule stating that the "asking" price is static for the seller. You want to make it a "dynamic" variable, then it goes both ways.

JV
 
alstl

alstl

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I check the wanted/for sale forum most days and over the past 2 or 3 years I've seen exactly 1 cue I would have bought for the price asked. I look at the cues just to see the workmanship but most sellers are asking ridiculous prices.
 
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