Fake gold crowns sold on eBay

ROB.M

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #1

How could anyone in their right mind bid on this thinking it's really a brunswick...?
At first glance I can see it's a knockoff fake.

This GC3 is a knockoff.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221704256189



I hope everyone around AZB knows the real thing from the fake, I'd hate for one of you to get burnd when buying a brunswick GoldCrown.
Let's see if you guys can ID the obvious signs between a knockoff and the real deal gold crown.

BUYER BEWARE!





Rob.M

 

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d_day

AzB Silver Member

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #2

Looks like it's already been removed.

 

pt109

WO double hemlock

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #3

Damn, they removed the listing.
I was curious if I could tell the difference in a picture.
...pretty sure I could tell if I played on it.

played on some Taicans in the 90s

 

ROB.M

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #4

Gc

Here's the photos of the table that was listed and sold.








Check em out'


Rob.M

 

Bishop

AzB Silver Member

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #5

dontlitethat said:

I hope everyone around AZB knows the real thing from the fake, I'd hate for one of you to get burnd when buying a brunswick GoldCrown.

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I guess you hated the idea so much that you went so far as to "hoping" that some here know the real thing from the fake.

 

realkingcobra

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #6

Bishop said:

I guess you hated the idea so much that you went so far as to "hoping" that some here know the real thing from the fake.

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Why is that...the pictures posted are not of Brunswick Gold Crown 3s.

 

Atlatlien

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #7

realkingcobra said:

Why is that...the pictures posted are not of Brunswick Gold Crown 3s.

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I was watching this table on eBay when I was table shopping. I thought it was real. How can you tell it's a knockoff?

The price was a little bit of a red flag for me at the time. IIRC it was listed for less than $1000.

 

jtompilot

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #8

The legs look funky

 

pt109

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #9

I don't think GCs have Italian slate.

 

K2Kraze

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #10

I think we need RKC to chime in again and help educate all of us on this one based on the pics - thanks in advance, RKC!


LIVFST

 

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itsfroze

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #11

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realkingcobra

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #12

1) Wrong color laminate on the top rails.
2) No Brunswick emblem in the metal ball tray.
3) Ball return is bolted on, and does not match a Brunswick ball return.
4) Bridge holder is not Brunswick.
5) Leg pedestals have a pronounced arch in the center at the bottom middle, Brunswick have a consistent arch from one side to the other. Also has wrong pedestal end caps for being a Brunswick, and the leg levelers don't screw up into the pedestals which also indicates a shorter leg pedestal.
6) Slate frame timber is painted black, Brunswick don't paint theirs.
7) Pocket castings are the wrong color for a GC3.

Is that enough difference for everyone? And yes, Brunswick did use slate from Italy starting in about 1976 or so.

 

realkingcobra

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #13

Did I forget to mention the frame the slate mounts to is made out of plywood and not solid timber like a GC frame is made with

 

pt109

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #14

realkingcobra said:

Is that enough difference for everyone? And yes, Brunswick did use slate from Italy starting in about 1976 or so.

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Ah, I have owned several GC1s and Anniversaries....
....so I assumed no Italian slate.

thanx

 

K2Kraze

AzB Silver Member

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #15

I knew we'd get the right answers from RKC. Thanks, Glen. I learned a few new things today


LIVFST

 

Baxter

Out To Win

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #16

realkingcobra said:

1) Wrong color laminate on the top rails.
2) No Brunswick emblem in the metal ball tray.

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These were the two things I noticed right away.

 

ROB.M

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #17

Table

You guys should of known all the signs of a fake.
Notice no trim on the ball box and those are not brunswick pockets, the aprons are covered in what is basically wallpaper, you can see the frame is way off and the frame is laminated rather than the monster timber of a GC.

Come on detective Sherlock Holmes, let's see what ya got'




Rob.M

 

realkingcobra

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #18

dontlitethat said:

You guys should of known all the signs of a fake.
Notice no trim on the ball box and those are not brunswick pockets, the aprons are covered in what is basically wallpaper, you can see the frame is way off and the frame is laminated rather than the monster timber of a GC.

Come on detective Sherlock Holmes, let's see what ya got'




Rob.M

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Can't see the ball box in the pictures you posted!

 

realkingcobra

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• Apr 10, 2015

• #19

And you missed the ball box drop tray extending clear back to the leg pedestal....Sherlock

 

ROB.M

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• Apr 11, 2015

• #20

Table

In the first pic on the first pages you can catch a slight peep at the front of the ball box just enough to see there is no trim, just as you caught the ball box butting up to the pedestal in the corner of the pic. Good eyes inspector dog'

AZERS' get on the inspection when purchasing a pool table!






Rob.M

 

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