After looking at it, it felt 'kinda' extreme. To be EXTREME, I would of looked for more left over forward rotation of whitey, enough to easily carry whitey to the bottom rail. With Mikas pump/stroke, I don't know if he could execute an ''extreme'' force follow shot quite like Kimmer. I've seen very few players in my life go three rails, striking an object ball lying in the middle of the table quite like Kim does with center 12 o'clock high spin with both balls hopping somewhat during execution. The 14.1 generation of players were very good at keeping whitey churning' after contact with many balls, and the cue sticks, especially the Balabuskas were adept at this shot.