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08-16-2018, 05:51 PM

I have given up on this event. they were asking something like $500 to enter for those who could not enter one of only 3 qualifiers nationally- crazy- no way some of the locals in this tournament paid the full entry fee- they opened the gates just to fill the roster spots, I am 65 and i know most of the locals in this event and they do not play close to my 14.1 game. I am never going to beat the top 6 here in the final two days, so why waste the $$ just to beat locals-- not a quality event in any respect, should just be a 3 day pro only event with strong sponsorship $$-- and THAT is the real issue here-- NO Strong Sponsor $$$ to keep it pro only.
  
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08-17-2018, 05:52 AM

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I have given up on this event. they were asking something like $500 to enter for those who could not enter one of only 3 qualifiers nationally- crazy- no way some of the locals in this tournament paid the full entry fee- they opened the gates just to fill the roster spots, I am 65 and i know most of the locals in this event and they do not play close to my 14.1 game. I am never going to beat the top 6 here in the final two days, so why waste the $$ just to beat locals-- not a quality event in any respect, should just be a 3 day pro only event with strong sponsorship $$-- and THAT is the real issue here-- NO Strong Sponsor $$$ to keep it pro only.

It'd be tough to suck up the entry and travel expenses to play in this event.

I know they promise everyone four or five matches out of the round robin but really, when you think about it, in some of those matches you're only going to get to lag, play a couple of return safeties, and maybe if you're lucky get a look at a wide open rack.

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08-17-2018, 07:00 AM

The big issue with sponsorship in my eyes, is that no one wants to see the locals play!

There are issues with having an invite only tournament for a world championship, however, as they are generally designed to open to all.

First thing thing that needs to happen to make any sport actually take off, is to have respect in the world title.
  
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08-17-2018, 08:33 AM

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Well sure, the venue is a valid concern.

However, let me ask you: if participation for an event has been dropping year to year; with the promoter offering open spots to anyone walking down the street to play in a "world" event; and it looks like a pretty safe bet that you're going to probably get 30-some odd players: why would you schedule a lengthy event?

Wouldn't the more prudent thing to do -- for the venue, players, and spectators -- be to condense the tournament to an appropriate length, say four days?

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but in the order of things not really knowing your participation it's real hard to do it the other way. It would also be hard to come up with a date first to have the event without knowing if the rooms have the availability. Either way it's a double edged sword. So i guess he sells it for the week, knowing what lenth of time it would take with a full field and makes adjustments as need be. I know myself it's real tough to coordinate this all, so i really can't knock him on this one aspect. other areas of the event really need some work first to get the event to flurrish again !!


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08-17-2018, 01:23 PM

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I get that.

but in the order of things not really knowing your participation it's real hard to do it the other way. It would also be hard to come up with a date first to have the event without knowing if the rooms have the availability. Either way it's a double edged sword. So i guess he sells it for the week, knowing what lenth of time it would take with a full field and makes adjustments as need be. I know myself it's real tough to coordinate this all, so i really can't knock him on this one aspect. other areas of the event really need some work first to get the event to flurrish again !!

Well, if you're in the position this event is in, with dwindling participation over recent years, do you not do something like: ID and advertise a four day date with the room; give/enforce an entry deadline; and limit the field to 36 players? Given the turnout for recent years you'd have to be dreaming to think you're going to get more than 36 players (a fraction of which would actually be contenders) and yet he's scheduling like he's going to fill a 64 man field. That's nuts.

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08-17-2018, 02:03 PM

I think Lee makes a very strong point. If you can't attract name players then people don't show up to watch or buy ppv. If no one is watching then why would a sponsor put up money.
I walked in Friday to see a sorry looking schedule for the day. I left !!!
I would like to thank the sponsors and the pool room for their effort. By the way nice pool room. Nothing fancy. Just nice clean place. If I am ever in the area I would stop in to play there.
  
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08-17-2018, 03:35 PM

Well, the American 14.1 is coming in October.
The last couple years at Diamond Billiards in Virginia have seen world class fields.
Hopefully the venue change to Carom Cafe in Flushing won't affect this too much. It's quite a jump in distance down to the (former) US Open in VA.
Whatever happens, it has to be better than this fiasco.
  
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08-18-2018, 08:55 AM

pretty big line-up today:

Quarter Finals
11am M. IMMONEN vs T. ROBLES
130pm T. HOHMANN vs MAKKONEN
Semifinals
5pm Immonen OR Robles
vs Schmidt OR Badstuebner

730pm Semifinals
Hohmann OR Makkonen
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