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is amateur pool on an upswing in your area? - 03-16-2019, 07:43 AM

Super Billiards Expo announced that for the first time in their history, all their amateur tournaments are sold out 2 weeks in advanced of the tournament. Wednesday's warm-up is at nearly 700 players. I never seen it that high in the 10 years I've been attending.

In my area, New York City, Tony Robles Predator tour season opener at Steinway had 140 plus players. Weekly tournaments at Steinway were drawing up to 60 players a night. They had to change from double elimination to single, so everyone could play.

Last season, Amsterdam's Straight Pool league had over 90 players, and our own Steve Kurtz 14.1 league at Bayshore had topped over 50 as well.

Local APA scene, at least one of the territories is offering Masters, Super 30 and other APA league products, not just 8-ball.

Just wondering if this is only limited to NYC area, North East or you see similar trends in your neck of the woods.


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03-16-2019, 07:46 AM

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Super Billiards Expo announced that for the first time in their history, all their amateur tournaments are sold out 2 weeks in advanced of the tournament. Wednesday's warm-up is at nearly 700 players. I never seen it that high in the 10 years I've been attending.

In my area, New York City, Tony Robles Predator tour season opener at Steinway had 140 plus players. Weekly tournaments at Steinway were drawing up to 60 players a night. They had to change from double elimination to single, so everyone could play.

Last season, Amsterdam's Straight Pool league had over 90 players, and our own Steve Kurtz 14.1 league at Bayshore had topped over 50 as well.

Local APA scene, at least one of the territories is offering Masters, Super 30 and other APA league products, not just 8-ball.

Just wondering if this is only limited to NYC area, North East or you see similar trends in your neck of the woods.
A little in the Tulsa area but a BUNCH in the Ok.City area. Fargo events all the time.
  
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03-16-2019, 08:36 AM

I'm sure plenty of people have just grown tired of sitting in front of their propaganda boxes. The last election "woke" a lot of people about the "news" & TV "programming" in general.


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03-16-2019, 08:47 AM

In philly, the pool scene is the best itís been in 10 years, but still well short of 20 years ago.

I personally think it has to do with the economy having been on the upswing for the past 5 or so years.
  
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03-16-2019, 09:01 AM

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A little in the Tulsa area but a BUNCH in the Ok.City area. Fargo events all the time.
Yeah OKC has a lot. Arizona too. Just posted this this morning about Pacific Northwest.
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03-16-2019, 11:55 AM

Would you be able to quantify that into numbers for comparison?

Warm-up at SBX, past years were 400's. I could be wrong, never past 500 participants.

Straight pool league participation is easily 1/3 or 33% higher than what I remember in the past 10 years.

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A little in the Tulsa area but a BUNCH in the Ok.City area. Fargo events all the time.


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03-16-2019, 11:56 AM

Hi Mike,

What I don't know is yearly variance, but your chart is confirming my hunch. Wonder what is behind the upswing, unless I'm being premature.


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03-16-2019, 01:18 PM

DCC has had record attendance every year for the past 4 or 5 years.
  
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03-16-2019, 02:54 PM

There are still a lot less pool halls around. The percent of people who play pool is too. That said those who play will spend a great deal of time and money doing so.
  
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03-16-2019, 03:27 PM

What is your area and location?

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There are still a lot less pool halls around. The percent of people who play pool is too. That said those who play will spend a great deal of time and money doing so.


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03-16-2019, 03:54 PM

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Super Billiards Expo announced that for the first time in their history, all their amateur tournaments are sold out 2 weeks in advanced of the tournament. Wednesday's warm-up is at nearly 700 players. I never seen it that high in the 10 years I've been attending.

In my area, New York City, Tony Robles Predator tour season opener at Steinway had 140 plus players. Weekly tournaments at Steinway were drawing up to 60 players a night. They had to change from double elimination to single, so everyone could play.

Last season, Amsterdam's Straight Pool league had over 90 players, and our own Steve Kurtz 14.1 league at Bayshore had topped over 50 as well.

Local APA scene, at least one of the territories is offering Masters, Super 30 and other APA league products, not just 8-ball.

Just wondering if this is only limited to NYC area, North East or you see similar trends in your neck of the woods.
Dont know about other places but in my area Florence, Alabama ..... lol ... it's hard to find anything pool related that would make any C+ or above player even think about attending.

Only a few places to play and ALL of them are dumps with owners that either dont have the cash to upgrade or dont feel it necessary.

Either way, I stay home or travel out of town to play.


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03-16-2019, 04:00 PM

In the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, amateur pool has been strong for many years. I can't honestly say it is growing, but it's definitely not slowing down.

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03-17-2019, 12:33 AM

Is Dallas/Ft. Worth bar tables or you have 9 footers?

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In the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, amateur pool has been strong for many years. I can't honestly say it is growing, but it's definitely not slowing down.

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03-17-2019, 12:35 AM

Barboxes or 9 footers? C+ or above. So, I'm guess APA 8-ball, and no tournaments (ABCD).

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Dont know about other places but in my area Florence, Alabama ..... lol ... it's hard to find anything pool related that would make any C+ or above player even think about attending.

Only a few places to play and ALL of them are dumps with owners that either dont have the cash to upgrade or dont feel it necessary.

Either way, I stay home or travel out of town to play.


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03-17-2019, 05:14 AM

I do not get in it as much as I used to and cannot say with any certainty that pool is on an upswing but from what I do see its certainly not declining.

In the 30 years I have been here only one pool hall has closed .....due to poor management in my opinion. He was strictly old school and did not cater to young people or leagues. No new halls have opened though.

A couple of money leagues have been ongoing for 20 or more years and seem to be thriving.

Bcapl folded several years ago due to the league owners misappropriating money meant for nationals.

Napa ....tap and usapl have tried their hand here and failed...mainly because apa realm took off after bcapl folded.

Speaking of apa. We had new owners take over last year and have made quite difference so far. Expanded their presence from 2 counties to 4. Expanded divisions to include a 9 foot table only division. Hold many more tournaments and regional and qualifiers than were ever held before. Some tournaments are full up with a waiting list which has never happened before.

As to non league players I can only speak on one hall since its the one I play at most . Very seldom its not completely full on Friday and Sunday nights when i play league. League takes up all 12 bar tables and I always see all 14 nine footers in use on those nights also. I made the trip to it on a tuesday night a couple weeks ago to check in it a friends meucci cargo pro before making the decision to order one myself. There was not a table free in order for me to try his out on. All 14 9 footers and all 12 seven footers were in use.
  
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