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Fixing American Pool by forming the NBL (National Billiards League) & PBA Tour!!!
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Tell that to Patrick Reed.
Which will soon be known as the Philippines Billiard Association ha
Ed, have you reached out to Mark Wilson? if you have not you should, I think the collegiate program has a fit into your model.
Golf and bowling are not hobbies?
The biggest problem in Pool that I see isn't in Professional Sports. Where are
all the Pool Rooms? If you can have a Pool Room without a bar and it support itself
then Pool will come back again, then through organizations you can lobby for
advertising and through memberships create something bigger and if you don't do that right it will just fold up.
all the Pool Rooms? If you can have a Pool Room without a bar and it support itself
then Pool will come back again, then through organizations you can lobby for
advertising and through memberships create something bigger and if you don't do that right it will just fold up.
He's a professional golfer who violated a rule in a sand-trap by improving his lie during practice swings. Overall a pretty minor situation that has received a ton of media attention in the golf world; and that's because golf rarely has any sort of unsportsmanlike like behavior. It is a game of high integrity in the professional space.
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I feel like I live in a different world.
I don't remember pool being great in the 1990's.
Can't wait to see something come out of this but......
Bar Box tournaments is where the money is.
A good amateur player can make more money than most Pro players.
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I feel like I live in a different world.
I don't remember pool being great in the 1990's.
Can't wait to see something come out of this but......
Bar Box tournaments is where the money is.
A good amateur player can make more money than most Pro players.
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Follow the money. There is none in pool. Pro level baseball, football, basketball and boxing can make multi millions a year.
Hell I'm retired and my pension brings in more than all but the absolute top players. Who would want to give up that kind of stability to live in their van playing shortstop pool?
The other thing is you have to pry those I-phones out the hands of the American youth.
One other problem is Starting out. Pool rooms today are being influenced by the pro tight pocket trend. To get kids started you need Valley's with buckets to make things fun. Yeah, bang that ball for five or six rails, something has to go in. It's not really a sin. Think of it as pools equivalent of T-ball and little league. You have to start by making balls to generate interest.
Hell I'm retired and my pension brings in more than all but the absolute top players. Who would want to give up that kind of stability to live in their van playing shortstop pool?
The other thing is you have to pry those I-phones out the hands of the American youth.
One other problem is Starting out. Pool rooms today are being influenced by the pro tight pocket trend. To get kids started you need Valley's with buckets to make things fun. Yeah, bang that ball for five or six rails, something has to go in. It's not really a sin. Think of it as pools equivalent of T-ball and little league. You have to start by making balls to generate interest.
If you allow betting it will be dump city.
No Casino is going to offer odds on pool players!
Just let the spectators have as much fun as they do at a major sporting events (think that might have something to do with how they got MAJOR?) Sitting quietly in your chair like your in a library isn't any fun and Americans don't identify with it. A pool tournament with an NFL atmosphere, that is whats missing.
You say: "If pool is to make a comeback, it will be through organized professionalism infused with class."
I don't view it as classy to use a tour name/acronym that is the same as or similar to what another sport uses, hoping for rub-off viewership or prestige (while apparently trying to side-step a word you say is associated with alcohol and degenerates).
Ed, I wish you luck in this endeavor. You have some very lofty goals here. As a businessman I would want to see the sustainability of your program, how it will be funded and continue to grow and expand. I look forward to seeing your business plan. Please PM me when you have one. I might be interested in coming on board if it looks workable.
I'm saying like Jai alai where it is parimutuel wagering.
The house just takes their cut of the top and the odds are dictated by the pool of money.
I'm not trying to be rude but if this was to work, these questions would need to be addressed.
What would make me think this isn't just some guy with a Macbook, a bunch of unvetted ideas, stolen images from the internet, a YouTube channel, and a Facebook page trying the old "fake it until you make it approach" with no actual capital, infrastructure, business plan, leadership team, or actual buy-in from any reputable stakeholders.
Have any of these 32 sanctioned locations officially signed up? Have any of these qualifiers been scheduled. Has the actual revenue to fund quarterly $200,000 tournaments been secured? What's the difference between the NBL concept and the PBA Tour concept?
What would make me think this isn't just some guy with a Macbook, a bunch of unvetted ideas, stolen images from the internet, a YouTube channel, and a Facebook page trying the old "fake it until you make it approach" with no actual capital, infrastructure, business plan, leadership team, or actual buy-in from any reputable stakeholders.
Have any of these 32 sanctioned locations officially signed up? Have any of these qualifiers been scheduled. Has the actual revenue to fund quarterly $200,000 tournaments been secured? What's the difference between the NBL concept and the PBA Tour concept?
And yet with all that media attention the story still gets garbled - he wasn't in a bunker where any grounding of the club is a penalty, he was in a waste area, and the penalty was improving the line of play.
Well, he runs a large and successful poolroom, so there's at least one room "signed on". There have been many high level matches take place at his room before, so its not exactly an unknown entity proposing all this.
I'm rooting for it to take off.
Pool means a lot of things to a lot of people. If it was meant to be a huge financial success, it would have already made it. Sports like baseball became financially successful organically. Baseball didn't need some kind of slick marketing plan to make it the national pastime. Pool will never be a money pump. There will never be a Professional Pool Tour like there is a PGA Tour. Here's why:watching pool on TV is like watching paint dry. The beauty of pool is holding your stick and bustin' a rack. Leave it alone. It's doing fine by itself.