Help dating this Brunswick Titlist Cue

manwon

manwon

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Hello, here is a cue that I picked up recently. I have been told that the cue was the last of the American made Brunswick cues from the late 1960's. I also have been told that the cue was assembled for Brunswick by Schmelke Cue Manufacturing.

1) I know the forearm appears to be a Titlist or is it?

2) Was it made by Schmelke, Brunswick, or Oversea's?

Please any information would be appreiciated!!!!!

Forearm.jpg

Butt.jpg

Brunswick forarm.jpg

Thanks Craig
 
bogey54311

bogey54311

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manwon,

thats a 70's era brunswick made overseas.
it does have titlist colors, but not made in the brunswick factory like the old ones.



chris G
 
nick serdula

nick serdula

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Helmstetter made titlists for Brunswick

The blanks were made to Brunswicks specs. They were a complete pain to do. Schmelkie did some also I just don't know who for. They were alot of work for the money so and a big pain to build so that is why you don't see them any more.
Nice blank!
Nick ;)
 
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Pizza Bob

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Not really a Titlist - It's, as it says, a Brunswick Personal. This was the top of the line new production cue in the 1969 / 1970 catalog. If there are matching numbers impressed into the wood, above and below the joint (on butt & shaft), then it was made in 1970. If there are no numbers, then 1969. The '69 cues were made entirely by Schmelke. In 1970, B'wick retained the designs.The butts and rough contoured shaft were done by Schmelke. The shaft was then sent to Japan for final contour and ferrule and tip installation. It is believed that Adam cues (Dick Helmstetter) in Japan did the shaft finishing, as Adam eventually built entire cues for B'wick. The numbers were to insure that the shaft was mated with the correct butt upon return from processing in Japan. If it's a '70 cue with original labeling, there will be a small round label on the butt sleeve, gold lettering on black that says something to the effect of the shaft being processed in Japan. The bumper is not correct on your cue. It should be a flat, low-profile one with cross-hatching and the "Brunswick" script logo. Nice find.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
 
cueaddicts

cueaddicts

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Pizza Bob said:
Not really a Titlist - It's, as it says, a Brunswick Personal. This was the top of the line new production cue in the 1969 / 1970 catalog. If there are matching numbers impressed into the wood, above and below the joint (on butt & shaft), then it was made in 1970. If there are no numbers, then 1969. The '69 cues were made entirely by Schmelke. In 1970, B'wick retained the designs.The butts and rough contoured shaft were done by Schmelke. The shaft was then sent to Japan for final contour and ferrule and tip installation. It is believed that Adam cues (Dick Helmstetter) in Japan did the shaft finishing, as Adam eventually built entire cues for B'wick. The numbers were to insure that the shaft was mated with the correct butt upon return from processing in Japan. If it's a '70 cue with original labeling, there will be a small round label on the butt sleeve, gold lettering on black that says something to the effect of the shaft being processed in Japan. The bumper is not correct on your cue. It should be a flat, low-profile one with cross-hatching and the "Brunswick" script logo. Nice find.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
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That's my understanding, as well. The blanks that were actually made in Japan came into prominence a few years after this, no doubt as folks like Palmer saw how good and inexpensive the blanks were based on the looks and success of Adam's first catalog cues.
 
manwon

manwon

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Pizza Bob said:
Not really a Titlist - It's, as it says, a Brunswick Personal. This was the top of the line new production cue in the 1969 / 1970 catalog. If there are matching numbers impressed into the wood, above and below the joint (on butt & shaft), then it was made in 1970. If there are no numbers, then 1969. The '69 cues were made entirely by Schmelke. In 1970, B'wick retained the designs.The butts and rough contoured shaft were done by Schmelke. The shaft was then sent to Japan for final contour and ferrule and tip installation. It is believed that Adam cues (Dick Helmstetter) in Japan did the shaft finishing, as Adam eventually built entire cues for B'wick. The numbers were to insure that the shaft was mated with the correct butt upon return from processing in Japan. If it's a '70 cue with original labeling, there will be a small round label on the butt sleeve, gold lettering on black that says something to the effect of the shaft being processed in Japan. The bumper is not correct on your cue. It should be a flat, low-profile one with cross-hatching and the "Brunswick" script logo. Nice find.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
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Thanks for the information Bob, the cue in question has no numbers on the shaft and the butt at the joint. It must have been made Schmelke, which ones are more common? those made by Schmelke of those from Japan. What is the approximate value for cues like this?

Thanks Bob, and have a good day!!!!
 
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