★ Remove the HOP from your shaft, manually. ★

JoeyA

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Does your cue shaft bounce up and down like a basketball when you rotate it? If so, it might be hurting your pool game, by preventing you from accurately and consistently hitting the spot on the cue ball that you intend to hit.

A buddy on Facebook sent me this link to a video which might resolve that issue.

If people are interested in this I can ask my FB buddy to provide more information. This is from Taiwan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8n5wX3VNUE

I thought it was pretty cool.

Here is another link to where you can buy the pocket lathes, guide and marker kit: https://www.facebook.com/ts.billiards?_rdr=p


JoeyA

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P.S. Here is the English version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4J7C215OsOGGqKZnyfvA-7w_AfSDrhEm&v=O1X8QGB1CKk&app=desktop
 
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Yes, please ask to provide more information. It looks similar in function to a pocket lathe.
 
high side verus warped

James Hanshew gave me that tip a while back and I was able to work out one shaft. He did warn me that if the shaft doesn't roll true on its own or on another butt, don't waste your time. Warped is warped.
 
If the issue is just the facing of the shaft, then this can definitely fix it. I've done this before myself, though I sanded the joint face very carefully....I like this cutter idea though.

Certainly best to do it with a lathe and I would never do it to a nice cue, but on a couple cheap cues I was actually able to get this done quite well. For anything decent I'll find a cue maker to help me out though.
 
James Hanshew gave me that tip a while back and I was able to work out one shaft. He did warn me that if the shaft doesn't roll true on its own or on another butt, don't waste your time. Warped is warped.

I would agree with only part of this. If the shaft rolls straight on it's own then you're probably pretty good....if the shaft rolls off on one butt and straight on another the issue is likely the joint facing on the other butt though, so while you could fix it by taking material off the shaft you would really just be compensating for an issue with the butt.

If the shaft rolls straight alone and has the joint facing off then it should roll off on any butt that is properly faced as well. That is the best indicator that the shaft facing is the problem and then this problem is perfect.
 
I used to do it this way, before I had a lathe. Best way to have a joint problem looked after is to roll the shaft and butt separately to look and see how bad the wobble is. Don't expect perfection - it's wood. Once you've established that both are straight-ish, have both the butt and shaft facing redone on a lathe. That fixes all problems.
 
Those cues

Those are the cheap SW knock off out of China or Hong Kong Made by I think a American cue maker that moved to china his Name is Mark and don't remember his last name .
All of his shafts wobble or at least the ones I got in.
I have sold about a half dozen of these cues, and for a 69.00 cue with 2 shafts they are not that bad.
The wrap feels funny on them or the ones I have gotten in .

I have a lathe and use live cutters to face the joint areas , and to be honest if you plan on taking a razor blade to the face of your shaft please just drop into my shop and I will do it for free on one of my lathes.
At the same time I can even face the joint on the butt.

What does bother me is how can anyone get a even surface when they are making the cue to start off with............... Truth is you cant if you are using a lathe.
Tells me the wood is still moving ( green )

I have several sets of those little pocket lathes I use for props for photographing my cues.
The little pocket lathes are really very limited on how useful they really are.
The same thing could of been done just by rolling the cue on the surface of pool table .


The razor blade thing is guess work compared to using a lathe,
And using a razor blade like that might chip or peel the clear finish off the edge of the joint collar.

As long as you got cue repair guys like me that don't like seeing people possibly screw up there cues and are willing to face a shaft for some one I would leave stuff like this to the people who have the best tooling to fix it 100% right and take the guess work out of it.
 
Nice, generous advice.

JoeyA

Those are the cheap SW knock off out of China or Hong Kong Made by I think a American cue maker that moved to china his Name is Mark and don't remember his last name .
All of his shafts wobble or at least the ones I got in.
I have sold about a half dozen of these cues, and for a 69.00 cue with 2 shafts they are not that bad.
The wrap feels funny on them or the ones I have gotten in .

I have a lathe and use live cutters to face the joint areas , and to be honest if you plan on taking a razor blade to the face of your shaft please just drop into my shop and I will do it for free on one of my lathes.
At the same time I can even face the joint on the butt.

What does bother me is how can anyone get a even surface when they are making the cue to start off with............... Truth is you cant if you are using a lathe.
Tells me the wood is still moving ( green )

I have several sets of those little pocket lathes I use for props for photographing my cues.
The little pocket lathes are really very limited on how useful they really are.
The same thing could of been done just by rolling the cue on the surface of pool table .


The razor blade thing is guess work compared to using a lathe,
And using a razor blade like that might chip or peel the clear finish off the edge of the joint collar.

As long as you got cue repair guys like me that don't like seeing people possibly screw up there cues and are willing to face a shaft for some one I would leave stuff like this to the people who have the best tooling to fix it 100% right and take the guess work out of it.
 
Yes, please ask to provide more information. It looks similar in function to a pocket lathe.

You can contact Timothy Soong on Facebook for more information.
(Timothy Soong is the U.S. distributor for the original author).

JoeyA
 
BTW, this is NOT, MARK.

JoeyA

Those are the cheap SW knock off out of China or Hong Kong Made by I think a American cue maker that moved to china his Name is Mark and don't remember his last name .
All of his shafts wobble or at least the ones I got in.
I have sold about a half dozen of these cues, and for a 69.00 cue with 2 shafts they are not that bad.
The wrap feels funny on them or the ones I have gotten in .

I have a lathe and use live cutters to face the joint areas , and to be honest if you plan on taking a razor blade to the face of your shaft please just drop into my shop and I will do it for free on one of my lathes.
At the same time I can even face the joint on the butt.

What does bother me is how can anyone get a even surface when they are making the cue to start off with............... Truth is you cant if you are using a lathe.
Tells me the wood is still moving ( green )

I have several sets of those little pocket lathes I use for props for photographing my cues.
The little pocket lathes are really very limited on how useful they really are.
The same thing could of been done just by rolling the cue on the surface of pool table .


The razor blade thing is guess work compared to using a lathe,
And using a razor blade like that might chip or peel the clear finish off the edge of the joint collar.

As long as you got cue repair guys like me that don't like seeing people possibly screw up there cues and are willing to face a shaft for some one I would leave stuff like this to the people who have the best tooling to fix it 100% right and take the guess work out of it.
 
The person's "American" name is Duke, at least that is what it says on his Facebook page. Don't know anything about the cues but thanks for keeping us in the loop.


JoeyA


The cue in the videos are not the ones coming out of China that are Made by a cue maker by the name of Mark ?

HUH sure fooled me.

Timothy Soong is good people.................
 
The person's "American" name is Duke, at least that is what it says on his Facebook page. Don't know anything about the cues but thanks for keeping us in the loop.


JoeyA

Hi Joey, I don't do face book , and I thought was right about his name, but If you say his name is Duke that's ok with me.
I think his cues are ok for the price ,
Pretty hard to make a cue like that for 69.00 bucks and still profit from it .

I still would take my cue to a cue repair guy to surface the joint face instead of using a razor blade.
 
I would like to have one of the pocket lathe gizmos. Not to shave joints with but just to have on my desk to inspect my cues. I did not see a reference to them on that facebook page.

If people are interested in this I can ask my FB buddy to provide more information. This is from Taiwan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8n5wX3VNUE

I thought it was pretty cool.

Here is another link to where you can buy the pocket lathes, guide and marker kit: https://www.facebook.com/ts.billiards?_rdr=p


JoeyA

P.S. Here is the English version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4J7C215OsOGGqKZnyfvA-7w_AfSDrhEm&v=O1X8QGB1CKk&app=desktop
 
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