10 ball break Work in progress!!

Hey, you got the cue ball to pop up, it's a start... kind of lost control of it though. Any idea where your speed's at?
 
Thanks! Think my follow through strayed a bit from the straight line!
Speed probably no more than 20 mph I would say!
 
I think you're right about the speed being 17ish, I was going like 18 for years and it has a kind of familiar look and sound. The popping cue ball can happen even at lower speeds. Shane says in his video getting that pop is important so you're on the right track. Keep at it.
 
Shane says in his video getting that pop is important so you're on the right track. Keep at it.

I'm curious about why he (or anyone) thinks the "pop" is important.

For the cueball to pop up it has to strike the headball from a higher position than the headball, so the CB must be off the cloth by a fraction of an inch (maybe 1-2mm?).

Is the advantage that it keeps the CB from wandering? If the CB is going UP it can't be going off to one side or other, i.e. more likely to remain near the center of the table?

It shouldn't have any positive impact on the spread of the rack. Energy is lost in the downward force (when CB strikes HB above it's center). That energy would be transferred to the table instead of the two balls behind the HB.

Maybe it just looks cool :grin:
 
The pop offers better cueball control if hit square on the 1ball and the tangent line for 1 ball will be near corner pocket like svb does !

Oh and it looks cool lol :)
 
although technically you did loose the cue ball. The overall result is a purely ideal layout. Nice break.
 
I'm curious about why he (or anyone) thinks the "pop" is important.

For the cueball to pop up it has to strike the headball from a higher position than the headball, so the CB must be off the cloth by a fraction of an inch (maybe 1-2mm?).

Is the advantage that it keeps the CB from wandering? If the CB is going UP it can't be going off to one side or other, i.e. more likely to remain near the center of the table?

It shouldn't have any positive impact on the spread of the rack. Energy is lost in the downward force (when CB strikes HB above it's center). That energy would be transferred to the table instead of the two balls behind the HB.

Maybe it just looks cool :grin:

I've also wondered. He swears by it... his grampa swears by it... there must be something to it.

Theory 1: The 1 ball wants to back towards a corner near the breaker.
Maybe the airborne cue ball gets out of the way so it can do that, otherwise it'd kiss the CB.

Theory 2: It seems like it allows some control with the cue ball using any amount of topspin.
The cue ball rebounds backwards, lands, then whatever topspin is left on the CB fights
against the tendency to roll back towards the kitchen. The result is it dives forward and then dies.
If you had topspin without the backwards bounce, the CB would be going wild.
So this method allows you to hit hard without stressing out about hitting dead center ball.

Theory 3: It looks cool and strikes fear into the heart of the opponent, making even 17 mph breaks
look like nuclear strikes.
 
I think Shane's head goes a little more forward than up as opposed to yours going almost straight up
 
And also when you pop the cueball up the 1 ball actually pops up as well and goes towards the corner! But in this video I just didn't hit full enough! Thanks for response
 
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I've also wondered. He swears by it... his grampa swears by it... there must be something to it.

Theory 1: The 1 ball wants to back towards a corner near the breaker.
Maybe the airborne cue ball gets out of the way so it can do that, otherwise it'd kiss the CB.

Theory 2: It seems like it allows some control with the cue ball using any amount of topspin.
The cue ball rebounds backwards, lands, then whatever topspin is left on the CB fights
against the tendency to roll back towards the kitchen. The result is it dives forward and then dies.
If you had topspin without the backwards bounce, the CB would be going wild.
So this method allows you to hit hard without stressing out about hitting dead center ball.

Theory 3: It looks cool and strikes fear into the heart of the opponent, making even 17 mph breaks
look like nuclear strikes.

Yep, by getting the cueball get air born it will get kissed around less. Billy Johnson/ Wade Crane was the first players I saw do this, and he one of the best breakers in the game.
 
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