12.75mm Vs 11.75mm Tip

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I am currently using a 12.75mm tip and want to change up to the 11.75mm. I haven't really played to many hours with the 11.75mm, but I have notice I make more shots with a 11.75mm and it takes less effort to move the cue ball around with a smaller tip. You also get less deflection with a 11.75mm. What is your personal preference and why?
 
13mm...I played with a 12.75 OB1 for a long time. I played with a 11.75 Z-2 for a little while, but it was too small for my hands. Now I've gone back to maple shafts.
 
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I like the 11.75. I think it forces you to become a better player. Requires you to be more exact it feels like a precision instrument IMHO.
 
I play with a smaller tip. Many of my favorite shafts are anywhere from 12.75 to 11.75.

Even at this point, a 12.75 feels like I have a telephone pole in my hand. and, a 11.75 feels just a tad too small some times. I currently use a 12mm.

I know that it is only a .25mm difference and very hard to see with your eye but that is my favorite size.

Put the proper tip on a 12mm and you will be very happy if you like using a small diameter.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
I play with a smaller tip. Many of my favorite shafts are anywhere from 12.75 to 11.75.

Even at this point, a 12.75 feels like I have a telephone pole in my hand. and, a 11.75 feels just a tad too small some times. I currently use a 12mm.

I know that it is only a .25mm difference and very hard to see with your eye but that is my favorite size.

Put the proper tip on a 12mm and you will be very happy if you like using a small diameter.
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I would like to find a good in-between and I think a 12mm or 12.25mm would be perfect. Unfortunately you do have to custom order shafts to get that size.
 
11.75, if you make a mistake ull know. forces ur stroke to be straighter, ur touch has to be on point. 12.75 or 13mm is just as well, its all on what you get used to. I bought an original Z shaft for $100 on seyberts a few years back, never even played with an 11.75, it was just on sale, havent used anything thicker since. if anyone has a Z first gen for sale Ill buy it :thumbup:
 
Well, the Players HXT shaft that I was referring to was listed as 11.75 but measured at 12mm. Maybe I was just lucky. I was also going to suggest trying a shaft closer to 12.30. I have a 12.40 and 12.35.

If you wanted it smaller, a repairman could do it for you. About the best you could do is
order something like a Players HXT shaft and have a repairman take it down for you over time until you hit the sweet spot that you preferred.

Many of the Schon shafts, which also happen to be excellent quality come in small diameters. There seems to be at times, many Schon shafts for sale in the Sale Forum at reasonable prices. That could be one way to start.

As far as the pin size goes, its an easy and inexpensive job to have a shaft plugged and new insert installed for your a pin that you use. So that part is easy. Just buy a shaft that you like and have the insert changed if need be.
 
Not for sale

I have an original Z shaft (11.75) which stays in my bag except for practice once in a while. I feel comfortable with my 314 and 314/2's (12.75) which I prefer. It's all about what you like.

Al
 
I use a 12.25 mm that Dan Janes made with my cue. I'm liking it I must say, good happy medium. He also sent a 12.5 that you have to squint to see is bigger, (you still can however.)

I tried the 11.75's, not bad. But I'm definitely happier with the 12.25, and remember bro it's all about preference.
 
I play with a Schon CX-06 and a McDermott I-3 shaft. The I-3 has a 11.75mm Moori Soft tip. When I hit the cue ball it feels that I strike it with geometric precision for maximum cue ball control. Seems easier to apply English and get the desired spin. The slim shaft feels right in my closed bridge. Small tip = small mass = less deflection.
 
I have an 11.5mm cue and it moves the balls fine. It's also a great cross over for snooker.

Usually play with a 12.75 though add I think it's a good inbetween.

I'm looking to sell the smaller tip cue if anyone is interested, just pm me.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
 
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DrGonzo said:
13mm...I played with a 12.75 OB1 for a long time. I played with a 11.75 Z-2 for a little while, but it was too small for my hands. Now I've gone back to maple shafts.
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+1 on that

Much prefer a top cue maker's maple shaft that has survived the selection process over numerous taperings as opposed to a mass produced import glue up. Took me 7 years with predators before I came to my conclusion.

Not saying that is what is best for anyone else, just best for me.
 
Quick question and I figure this might be a good place to ask. Any truth to the belief that a larger tip will be more forgiving and pocket balls a bit better, and a smaller tip will be less forgiving but be easier to apply more English to the cue ball?
 
randomNameHere said:
Quick question and I figure this might be a good place to ask. Any truth to the belief that a larger tip will be more forgiving and pocket balls a bit better, and a smaller tip will be less forgiving but be easier to apply more English to the cue ball?
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I don't understand this "forgiving" thing. And some others say: don't buy a z2 or an ob2, if you are not a pro !!! My ob2 (11,75mm) plays great. And I am no pro. If I miss a shot it is because of my alignment. Not the shaft. I like 11,75mm shafts with conical taper.
 
Realistically, if one exact particular shaft was better than any other, then you would see each and every pro using that exact type of shaft. But the reality is if "Brand X" pays a pro to use their shaft they will.

This fact alone proves that shaft type, and shaft size is pure preference.
 
ps611846 said:
I don't understand this "forgiving" thing. And some others say: don't buy a z2 or an ob2, if you are not a pro !!! My ob2 (11,75mm) plays great. And I am no pro. If I miss a shot it is because of my alignment. Not the shaft. I like 11,75mm shafts with conical taper.
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I would liken it to something I do know much more about, golf clubs. A larger permittee weighted cavity back is going to produce a much better resulting shot when hit slightly off center than a smaller blade iron like the best players in the world use. So as someone who doesn't play at a super high level with a perfectly repeatable stroke, would I be better off playing with something that would help produce a decent result (and maybe even still pocket a ball in some instances) than something that will not? Or do you think there is no difference between tip diameters on shots not stuck exactly as intended?

Kel_82 said:
Realistically, if one exact particular shaft was better than any other, then you would see each and every pro using that exact type of shaft. But the reality is if "Brand X" pays a pro to use their shaft they will.

This fact alone proves that shaft type, and shaft size is pure preference.
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Agreed, but I'm sure each and every pro has their preferences and knows what works best for them in terms of tip hardness, tip size, taper, feel, hit and balance in a cue based on their stroke. So in the interest of trying to play better why should I not try to find that for myself?
 
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