Here are the 1948 BCA rules. Several sites have an old URL for them. These are available thanks to Jim Barr of the Pool Players League of Kansas City.bell said:Can anyone point me to a site where I can see the old rules for 1-15 Eight-ball?
A brief history of the rules of eight ball is available atCaptainHook said:LOL I was looking at some of my old books and in the 8 Ball rules it said if you make the 8 on break you Lose!!!!!!!!![]()
The last time I played 1 and 15 was in a similar situation. One thing (of several) that is not perfectly clear in the rules, is that if you pocket the 1 (or 15) in the wrong pocket, you get to shoot again after the ball spots. This means that a good player might shoot the 1 ball five or six times in a row, trying to move balls out of the path to the side pocket with the cue ball.bell said:... An old fart who plays in local Sr. Citizen Center. (Hey, there are a lot of us).
Sounds like a variation on 'Volunteer Snooker' Bob. This was an official game appearing in the old B&SCC rulebook of billiards and snooker, but little heard of now. Basically the same as snooker but after potting a red the first colour was a 'free' ball - ie no penalty if you missed. Thereafter you could volunteer to pot colours as penalty balls - you lost the value if you missed - or take a free red like normal snooker. Big scores could be had, and no matter how far behind you could always theoretically win.Bob Jewett said:There is a similar wrinkle in some local snooker rules. The "wild pink" rule allows you to shoot at the pink any time you want for 6 points, whether you have sunk a red or not, but if you miss it when shooting it out of turn, you lose 6 points. Of course this is a hustler's game, and good players might pocket the pink 20 or 30 times in a row.
So since I've potted a ball from the black (billiard) spot 28 consecutive times, I have done the equivalent of a 189-point break at snooker? Someone call Guinness.Boro Nut said:... Thereafter you could volunteer to pot colours as penalty balls - you lost the value if you missed - or take a free red like normal snooker. Big scores could be had, and no matter how far behind you could always theoretically win. ...
Wouldn't you have received a point for the red as well, making it 190?Bob Jewett said:So since I've potted a ball from the black (billiard) spot 28 consecutive times, I have done the equivalent of a 189-point break at snooker?
Well, since all of the balls were red, I suppose it would only be 183. The actual record for this sort of shot was set by William Peall who pocketed 721 consecutive balls off the (black) spot on a 6x12 table. Whether you count this as better than 526 balls on a 4x8 pool table may depend on which side of the pond you live on.gulfportdoc said:Wouldn't you have received a point for the red as well, making it 190?
Doc
No, the next ball on is always free, but once potted any other colour(s) can be volunteered out of sequence. I think there was a limit of three consecutive times that a colour could be potted before it stayed off the table for one shot, forcing you to go for a different colour, but you still have unlimited scoring potential with only blue pink and black left (after potting brown) ie volunteering the pink and black.Bob Jewett said:Did the option at volunteer snooker end when you were on the colors?
While 100 pots off the spot is no easy task I think 721 speaks more of mental endurance than skill. If I was ever good enough to do 300 I'd still probably offer the other bloke a draw if he would just let me go home.Bob Jewett said:Well, since all of the balls were red, I suppose it would only be 183. The actual record for this sort of shot was set by William Peall who pocketed 721 consecutive balls off the (black) spot on a 6x12 table. Whether you count this as better than 526 balls on a 4x8 pool table may depend on which side of the pond you live on.