1985 Richard Black
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Awesome! Is your friend named Mike? I sold one just like that to a guy here in Salt Lake City in 1987 named Mike the "Turk". Sold it with a 1x2 Manx case (Ann Gore) for $400. He hung around here for a year or so and moved on to Baltimore I believe. Mine was built in October 1985 also. Hard to believe Richard made 2 like that in the same month and year.
Thanks for the information! Not Mike. It’s been in my friend’s collection for some time. I’d still say there’s a good chance that I have your cue. It would make sense geographically- I’m in Virginia Beach, just a little over 4 hours south of Baltimore.
I love that too. It’s a much more pleasing look than having a bigger gap there.
i would not have known to notice that
but i did love the veneer colors
I saw 2 of Richard’s cues this past weekend. They would not allow photography. Huge amounts of Ivory with silver ribbons inlay design. Silver rings with intricate engraving. Silver inlays with engraving in the wood. Wood was amazing. I think his cost was $1,000 a blank. Definitely a museum piece. Have no idea of the cost.
Richard has produced some amazing cues.
I have an early 80's Black that is signed but not dated. It was ordered by a gentleman in Central Indiana and remained with him for 30 years. Does anyone know when Richard started dating cues or why this one might not have been dated? Thanks all
Terry Aeschliman Galveston Indiana 765 434 5131
Terry Aeschliman Galveston Indiana 765 434 5131
I had 2 made in 1989. Both signed; one dated.
Awesome cue. Love those older Richard Blacks. Curious did you get it from a gentleman that goes by Sailor?
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Thank you! Seems like a good one.
No sir, just a friend from my local pool hall who doesn’t have a nickname that I know of.
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When he made my cue in 1988, wow that was a long time ago. Anyway, he would date the cue if it was built for someone who he thought was going to play with it and not resell the cue. At least that was my understanding.
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June 1, 2016
Signature and Dating of Richard Black Cues
There seems to be a good bit of information, misinformation and interest in the sequence of how and why I sign my cues. I hope this will set the record straight and answer any and all questions.
I began signing my cues in late 1979. Until that time I did not personally feel that they deserved a signature because I was continually changing how I made them based on the trial and error I experienced as a new and developing cuemaker.
I had signed and dated a very few cues prior to that when a customer wanted (and paid for) his cue to be personalized. My method was with a very expensive art pencil and was inspired by the late Herman Rambow. I practiced his style of calligraphy for many weeks to achieve the ability to perform that feature to my satisfaction.
When I started adding my signature to each cue I made I included the date I finished the cue unless I was aware that the purchaser was probably going to resell the cue then I would not date it. If it was a poolroom or a dealer, I felt they did not want a potential customer to know how long they had been holding it.
I continued this practice for approximately 35 years until my hand would not cooperate and my signature looked so squably that I was embarrassed to have it on my cues. Then I started engraving my RB logo on either the joint or the butt plate. I anticipate doing this as long as I continue to make cues. The one exception is when a customer is so adamant that the cue be signed, and then I will find a way to provide my signature.
In cases where an owner has hired someone else to refinish the cue and my signature has been lost – I will not provide a letter of authenticity. My signature is my authentication. If someone has bought one of my cues without my signature then the only way to get it is to have me refinish and rewrap the cue (at my full charge) or to have me engrave my logo (also at full engraving cost). Cues made by me, prior to late 1979, that do not have a logo or signature can be engraved for authentication.
19410NehocLane,Humble,Texas77346 phone281-852-5025 richard@blackcues.com
June 1, 2016
Signature and Dating of Richard Black Cues
There seems to be a good bit of information, misinformation and interest in the sequence of how and why I sign my cues. I hope this will set the record straight and answer any and all questions.
I began signing my cues in late 1979. Until that time I did not personally feel that they deserved a signature because I was continually changing how I made them based on the trial and error I experienced as a new and developing cuemaker.
I had signed and dated a very few cues prior to that when a customer wanted (and paid for) his cue to be personalized. My method was with a very expensive art pencil and was inspired by the late Herman Rambow. I practiced his style of calligraphy for many weeks to achieve the ability to perform that feature to my satisfaction.
When I started adding my signature to each cue I made I included the date I finished the cue unless I was aware that the purchaser was probably going to resell the cue then I would not date it. If it was a poolroom or a dealer, I felt they did not want a potential customer to know how long they had been holding it.
I continued this practice for approximately 35 years until my hand would not cooperate and my signature looked so squably that I was embarrassed to have it on my cues. Then I started engraving my RB logo on either the joint or the butt plate. I anticipate doing this as long as I continue to make cues. The one exception is when a customer is so adamant that the cue be signed, and then I will find a way to provide my signature.
In cases where an owner has hired someone else to refinish the cue and my signature has been lost – I will not provide a letter of authenticity. My signature is my authentication. If someone has bought one of my cues without my signature then the only way to get it is to have me refinish and rewrap the cue (at my full charge) or to have me engrave my logo (also at full engraving cost). Cues made by me, prior to late 1979, that do not have a logo or signature can be engraved for authentication.
19410NehocLane,Humble,Texas77346 phone281-852-5025 richard@blackcues.com