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Matt_24 said:"Well, I changed my mind. So sue me. "
nice attitude.
" It was nothing to do with the price because I KNOW it would and WILL sell if I put it on ebay."
How many bids did it have?
"Now, I've dealt with several people on here. I sold Chris Tate (Palmercollector) a cue, and I think he will vouch for my integrity. He wasn't happy with the cue at ALL (and I stress...at ALL)"
I'm shocked.
"and I "immediately" gave him a full refund"
I would hope so.
"Now..you have all of 28 posts or so. Who are you and why do feel like anything you say matters to me? You think I'd sell it to you anyway? "
I criticize your blatant shady deal where you clearly violate ebay's seller policy and you don't care about my opinion? Figures, goes to show about your ethics.
"If you got any heart or game you can come on down to Alexandria VA and post your money against the cue, and trust me you will have all of the competition in me that you can handle. Put up or SHUT UP I always say."
yeah, yeah, you get called out on your shadiness and all of a sudden you come with the challenges, oh I'm sure you're a world beater and all
and I should just run halfway across the country to take you up on your childish challenge, just to hear you say after I beat you, "the cue is no longer up for sale"
"Can you hear me now??"
hard to hear a worm slither.
Matt_24 said:
You wanted $1400...hello!
Matt_24 said:
You didn't get a single bid, huh?
Matt_24 said:
$1400 is a 65% markup...that IS greedy
I agree...$1400 was too much. I admittedly started off a bit ambitious (greedy). BUT I was testing the demand. Is that wrong? You act like it is a criminal offense to try and make a profit.
On the other hand, I started the ebay auction at my asking price with no reserve. A lot of people were inquiring...so I don't think marking it up $150 (now) is asking too much. If it doesn't bring it, then it doesn't.
Any more questions/concerns? ....is this thing on....I'm here all week.
On the other hand, I started the ebay auction at my asking price with no reserve. A lot of people were inquiring...so I don't think marking it up $150 (now) is asking too much. If it doesn't bring it, then it doesn't.
Any more questions/concerns? ....is this thing on....I'm here all week.
inrush said:Matt_24 said:"Well, I changed my mind. So sue me. "
nice attitude.
" It was nothing to do with the price because I KNOW it would and WILL sell if I put it on ebay."
How many bids did it have?
"Now, I've dealt with several people on here. I sold Chris Tate (Palmercollector) a cue, and I think he will vouch for my integrity. He wasn't happy with the cue at ALL (and I stress...at ALL)"
I'm shocked.
"and I "immediately" gave him a full refund"
I would hope so.
"Now..you have all of 28 posts or so. Who are you and why do feel like anything you say matters to me? You think I'd sell it to you anyway? "
I criticize your blatant shady deal where you clearly violate ebay's seller policy and you don't care about my opinion? Figures, goes to show about your ethics.
"If you got any heart or game you can come on down to Alexandria VA and post your money against the cue, and trust me you will have all of the competition in me that you can handle. Put up or SHUT UP I always say."
yeah, yeah, you get called out on your shadiness and all of a sudden you come with the challenges, oh I'm sure you're a world beater and all
and I should just run halfway across the country to take you up on your childish challenge, just to hear you say after I beat you, "the cue is no longer up for sale"
"Can you hear me now??"
hard to hear a worm slither.
Ok, so I'm a worm. Now...I'm asking $1000. Do we have a deal or not?
I've never been the recipient of one of the legendary AZ flame wars. This kind of sucks.
I promise I'm not shady ya'll. Anyone can come visit and play with me anytime. Purdman knows me. I don't know why these guys are all upset. I guess they don't have anything better to do than try and flame someone. Kind of pathetic actually, but it IS the internet.
So "Inrush"...I take it you DON'T want the cue?
I promise I'm not shady ya'll. Anyone can come visit and play with me anytime. Purdman knows me. I don't know why these guys are all upset. I guess they don't have anything better to do than try and flame someone. Kind of pathetic actually, but it IS the internet.
So "Inrush"...I take it you DON'T want the cue?
"I agree...$1400 was too much. I admittedly started off a bit ambitious (greedy). BUT I was testing the demand. Is that wrong? You act like it is a criminal offense to try and make a profit.
On the other hand, I started the ebay auction at my asking price with no reserve."
Which is all fine & dandy if you let the auction run it's course instead of pulling it because you thought you could get more money elsewhere.
On the other hand, I started the ebay auction at my asking price with no reserve."
Which is all fine & dandy if you let the auction run it's course instead of pulling it because you thought you could get more money elsewhere.
Matt_24 said:I've never been the recipient of one of the legendary AZ flame wars. This kind of sucks.
I promise I'm not shady ya'll. Anyone can come visit and play with me anytime. Purdman knows me. I don't know why these guys are all upset. I guess they don't have anything better to do than try and flame someone. Kind of pathetic actually, but it IS the internet.
So "Inrush"...I take it you DON'T want the cue?
I'm not flaming anyone, I was calling you out on your bunk practice of ending auctions early, if you do a search on here you can see wat other people say about that kind of move also.
Anyways, I'm done with this conversation, you obviously don't see the point I was making.
Inrush,
How can I explain this. I DIDN'T end it because it had no bids. I decided I wanted to keep it. I love the cue!
Yesterday I saw a great SHOWMAN on the Cueaddicts website. To acquire a portion of the funds I decided I'd try to sell it again (perhaps too soon....lol). That is the honest truth, plain and simple. I didn't violate ebay policy. I ended it because it was no longer for sale. How was that a violation?
Before putting it on ebay, I asked for MORE. When I put it on ebay, I asked for enough to break even..but then changed my mind.
I don't have to explain myself, but I have it for sale, and I have nothing to hide. This is the God's honest truth.
Now....continue your insults. I don't know what else I can say.
How can I explain this. I DIDN'T end it because it had no bids. I decided I wanted to keep it. I love the cue!
Yesterday I saw a great SHOWMAN on the Cueaddicts website. To acquire a portion of the funds I decided I'd try to sell it again (perhaps too soon....lol). That is the honest truth, plain and simple. I didn't violate ebay policy. I ended it because it was no longer for sale. How was that a violation?
Before putting it on ebay, I asked for MORE. When I put it on ebay, I asked for enough to break even..but then changed my mind.
I don't have to explain myself, but I have it for sale, and I have nothing to hide. This is the God's honest truth.
Now....continue your insults. I don't know what else I can say.
I just want everyone to note that I think Matt is a very honest guy and a very nice guy. I think he was truthful here about his reasoning and the facts - more truthful than most people would have been.
I've had a lot of communication with him and some dealings, and I will vouch for him. If you want this cue, you will not have any problems dealing with Matt.
I'm not fond of cancelled auctions myself, but since there were no bids, I don't consider it a big deal.
Chris
I've had a lot of communication with him and some dealings, and I will vouch for him. If you want this cue, you will not have any problems dealing with Matt.
I'm not fond of cancelled auctions myself, but since there were no bids, I don't consider it a big deal.
Chris
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Matt, those of us that know you, trust you. I would put you in the top 10% when it comes to honesty. My dealings with you have always been good to go. Don't sweat the little chit buddy.
Purdman
How about putting a good word in for me with TATE. Maybe he will sell me a Jam Up Palmer at a reasonable price.
Purdman
I am gonna put the Scruggs you sold me in my avatar. Don't cry now buddy!!!!!
Purdman
How about putting a good word in for me with TATE. Maybe he will sell me a Jam Up Palmer at a reasonable price.
Purdman
I am gonna put the Scruggs you sold me in my avatar. Don't cry now buddy!!!!!
Purdman said:
If you put that Scruggs in there I will REALLY cry. I still have nightmares about selling that cue!
Live and learn. That was a good one though, right? Wow...it is nice to have friends come on and support you. Thanks Purdman and Tate.
I don't hold any hard feelings towards Inrush. He just saw me as a fraud (and maybe still does) and was holding my butt to the flames. It is all good. Guess I survived my first AZB kamikaze attack. Sheww.....
1. Perfectly legit to end an auction that had 0 bids. You broke no eBay rules, nor did you do anything unethical from my view. (and I'm a real stickler about eBay auction pulling, so that's saying something)
2. Fine to ask what you think a cue is worth.
3. Also, perfectly Ok to change your mind about selling/not selling.
4. Asking 1400, then 1000, then linking to where you're asking 850 from strangers, but then coming back and telling the "inside crowd" that it's now 1000 for them. That was what I think set folks off, as it could come across as thumbing your nose at them. The smarmy attitude while explaining your position probably didn't help the situation either.
Hope you don't think it's a flame, it's just an observation from another low post-count outsider.
2. Fine to ask what you think a cue is worth.
3. Also, perfectly Ok to change your mind about selling/not selling.
4. Asking 1400, then 1000, then linking to where you're asking 850 from strangers, but then coming back and telling the "inside crowd" that it's now 1000 for them. That was what I think set folks off, as it could come across as thumbing your nose at them. The smarmy attitude while explaining your position probably didn't help the situation either.
Hope you don't think it's a flame, it's just an observation from another low post-count outsider.
Guru said:
Ok, the only part I must clarify is originally when I posted this, people pm'd about a price. I asked $1400. No takers. I put it on ebay for $850. It ran for a few days with no bids. I decided to pull it. I then found a cue I wanted, and re-bumped this thread (regretfully now) asking $1000 and making it clear that I just want a $150 profit. I think the cue is worth it.
Yes, I did get a bit smarmy. It happens. I'll admit it. Thought I was in a pool room for a second with my gambling challenge..LOL. I hope this further clears things up. Thanks!
Purdman said:
YOU PUT IT IN THE AVATAR. You son of a............
I miss my Scruggs. I won a lot of moulah with that cue.
Lost a lot of moulah with that cue as well..hahaha.a...
Thanks for saving the case for me. That was a great b-day gift! My prized case from the Purdman.
To Inrush,
I guess we straightened everything out on this thread, but just wanted YOU specifically to know. I've relisted this cue on ebay, and had TWO offers to end the auction early and sell it...but I'm letting the auction run its course, if it gets zero bids! Hopefully the people who want it NOW won't get upset and decide not to bid (I don't know what difference a few days will make), but if they do - oh well. Just reiterating my point that I did originally take it down because I decided to keep it, not to sell it early (and yes..to advertise the fact that it is on ebay..lol).
Thanks!
I guess we straightened everything out on this thread, but just wanted YOU specifically to know. I've relisted this cue on ebay, and had TWO offers to end the auction early and sell it...but I'm letting the auction run its course, if it gets zero bids! Hopefully the people who want it NOW won't get upset and decide not to bid (I don't know what difference a few days will make), but if they do - oh well. Just reiterating my point that I did originally take it down because I decided to keep it, not to sell it early (and yes..to advertise the fact that it is on ebay..lol).
Thanks!