1hole q: wing ball popping out on break

[lewdo26]

Well, the closer to the head spot you break from, the less of the 2nd ball you'll hit on the break. Therefore the break is "safer", but you won't get the spread toward your hole that you would from the rail break.

Doc

I understand that, doc. But what was happening on the tv table was that the endball was popping out EVERY time for some reason. I saw Efren practice the break a little bit before the match, and the ball popped out so often that he decided to go with the safer option.

 

[im2fast4u2catch]

I posted below before I saw this post, but you are 100% correct. I thought about that after I posted, as I do break from both sides, however usually break from the left side, hence using high right.

The correct hit is high inside english.

you know i break hitting the seam of the second and third ball with high inside. but one thing that i can say is the book "upscale one pocket" is a book that totally made me play 2 balls better in one pocket. check out that book it has all of the banking, breaking, caroms and stratagey in it. its work the fifteen or so dollars you have to spend for it
good luck
b

 

[wagnew]

your pocket

I don't think I quite understand what you are referring to, but the object is to (in a safe-mode break) use high inside english, hit 1/4 head ball, 3/4 second ball. From this point, the cue ball is going to hit the 1st diamond area on the short rail near your pocket and roll up to in between the 2nd and 3rd diamond (nearest the side hole) on the long rail near your pocket. You are hoping to push 2, 3, or even 4 balls your way without giving your opponent a shot, while leaving the cue ball stuck opposite your hole behind the rack.

edit - I think I got what you mean on the break shot. It would probably be the closest to a lag-type speed, possibly a bit harder.

and www.onepocket.org is a great site!

Don't you mean to say that it will hit the short rail near your "opponents" pocket and stop on your "opponents" long rail?
Sincerely,
Wayne Agnew

 

[gulfportdoc]

I understand that, doc. But what was happening on the tv table was that the endball was popping out EVERY time for some reason. I saw Efren practice the break a little bit before the match, and the ball popped out so often that he decided to go with the safer option.

That IS unusual. Was the corner ball popping out no matter which side the break was from? Perhaps there was a defect in the cloth. Anyway, that's the time to break more from the center of the table.

Doc

 

[1pRoscoe]

Don't you mean to say that it will hit the short rail near your "opponents" pocket and stop on your "opponents" long rail?
Sincerely,
Wayne Agnew

Sometimes I type faster than I think....

Yes, that is what I meant to say.

 

[Egg McDogit]

I played some last night and I'm pretty sure I was hitting the rack just about the same place everytime...most of the breaks worked out fine, but on one or two of them, a ball popped out fairly close the opposite pocket...the cue ball was far enough to the rail that it wasn't makeable though. Thanks for all the tips. After I get the break down, all I have to do is learn how to move lol

peace
-egg

If there is a gap between any of the balls, on the opponents side of the rack, this will cause a ball or balls to break out out further than usual. Always check the headball and the opponents line of balls (the line of balls you are shooting to hit & miss)

Bad hits cause all kinds of problems, but that it is a self-imposed penalty. If you keep experiencing loose balls for your opponent & you think you are hitting the gap correctly, I would consider checking the rack. It may not be your doing.

There are lots of tricks one can pull on a One-Pocket break shot.

 

[tom haney]

Two possibilities: You're hitting the second ball too
full. If you get a perfect rack this is why you make
a ball in your pocket now and then. More likely you'll
knock balls toward his hole or scratch.
Secondly, you're getting a bad rack. Some guys
will put the rack slightly above the spot. Check
for that. Also, they will turn the rack slightly
into the side you are breaking INTO.
You could always request that each player racks
his own balls.

I've been dabbling in 1 hole lately. Sometimes when I break, the wing ball on my opponent's pocket pops off and heads for his hole, sometimes leaving him a shot. I'm doing the break where you stroke it good and thin the 2nd ball with follow/inside english. Is this because of a BS rack or am I just breaking them bad?

While we're at it - I make a ball on the break (in my pocket) every so often...is this possible if the rack is tight? And what should I look for to make sure my opponent isn't rigging the rack to make a ball on their break (if you're willing to share)?

peace
-egg