Hi Ryan
You had that cue in your hands! I know it is a stretch. But do you recall anything strange or out of place when you were working on it?
2007 Richard Black 4 Pts Ebony Player - $29 per spot / $56 for 2 spots
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Hi Ryan
You had that cue in your hands! I know it is a stretch. But do you recall anything strange or out of place when you were working on it?
Personally don't feel you have much of a part in this.....don't even believe there's an issue with this cue. The main issue is obviously with this user and his credibility now based on the other cases he's been outted on. He's not doing himself any favors in how he's electing to handle things either.
People need to realize that how this is handled (and whether and how they choose to press this) may result in determining the future of other raffles here. I'm sure that Mike doesn't want to be involved matters such as these, but this risk has been here all along. "One bad apple may ruin the whole bushel".....question is, is everyone going to let this happen? In any raffle, there is obvious risk in not being named a winner at all.
I get hit in the head a lot...:embarrassed2: I don't remember anything strange or out of place but, then again, I had no reason to look that hard. The more I look at the signature, the more it looks legit. That's why I wanted a better, clearer pic.
Your pics are much better. The signature looks pretty good there. It looks more in line with what I've seen from other models.
I also looked through my pics and found the pics of the wrap I sent you but not of the cue itself.
Does anyone remember BPG24 and that whole debacle? He claimed to go as far as reporting the whole site to PayPal because someone fixed the lottery or something. That was a few years ago and the raffles have prevailed nonetheless and Mike and crew aren't in jail. I think BPG's ban was the ultimate one - they erased his entire existence. Even the formidable FastLarry still has viewable posts.
But I agree with you wholeheartedly - no need to tug on Superman's cape here. I think the best possible outcome is Tasaddicts refunds those who requested it before the drawing time instead of them submitting claims - whether or not that will ever happen I don't know. Hopefully he does the right thing just this once. It could go a long way, some members who have done some pretty evil crap have been welcomed back to this forum by apologizing and doing the right thing. Some haven't. Tasaddicts must take the first step.
I feel this was an actual Richard Black and was willing to take the gamble - hate me all you want, but I was already stuck my money and knew that I wasn't going to get it back and knew this raffle would never ever fill again to allow it to go off.
Tas, you know there is one shot at making the best of this - just do it and forget the money or say good bye to ever doing business here or elsewhere. That may happen even if you do the right thing, but at least you might be able to sleep at night or something.
That's my .02 anyway, for whatever it is worth.
Can the winner if this raffle respond on this suggestion? Thank you
I am ok with this recommendation and currently have plans to be in Houston next Wednesday.
If you can get me the cue asap, then I would be willing to contact Mr. Black and ask if he would be available to verify that it was one of his cues.
If you can get me the cue asap, then I would be willing to contact Mr. Black and ask if he would be available to verify that it was one of his cues.
I am ok with this recommendation and currently have plans to be in Houston next Wednesday.
If you can get me the cue asap, then I would be willing to contact Mr. Black and ask if he would be available to verify that it was one of his cues.
thats not gonna happen, your likely lookin at a couple weeks or so in customs alone,,,,,,,,,,,
Didn't realize where this was shipping from. If timing doesn't work out for next week, it is really not an issue as I travel to Houston every 1-2 weeks to visit family and for business trips. I can schedule accordingly once I receive the cue.
AZMembers,
I would like to apologize wholeheartedly for how aggresive I have been on some of my posts. I get a little wound up about stuff like this and I don't realize until after the fact how aggresive I can get with words. If I have misdirected or offended any unintentional parties, you have me deepest apologies.
I did not mean to come off as overbearing, insulting, or demeaning in any way. My demeanor was intended to demonstrate how frustrated, insulted, and cheated I felt. My other purpose was to ensure that we all were protected and shared knowledge / findings are IMO a key way to do that in this situation. I may have used unnecessary language or attacks to get my point across.
So please accept my deepest apologies for some of my recent posts, however, remain diligent and research everything about these transactions. I sincerely hope that this issue can get resolved in a matter that makes everyone satisfied, however, I cannot say that I am overly optimistic and for that I apologize as well.
tasaddicts,
Do whats right man. You know what you did was wrong. I wish that for my own piece of mind you would post admiting that you knew what you did was wrong...AND...your going to make it right by refunding all of the money involved with the case raffles. I can still say that I am less than optimistic that this will happen.
There are three issues at hand here:
1) The fake JB Cases and fake predator cases that you knowing attempted to pass off as authentic.
2) The richard black cue that people wanted refunds from, yet, you ran the raffle anyway.
3) other products that you have sold that are now in question due to your integrity being compromised.
For the issue of the cases. There is no way people will be satisfied with you only refunding your supposed profits based of numbers you throw at us. We as the consumer/victim cannot expect to pay for your overhead in a situation where you lied to us about the product. The only acceptable solution for this would be to refund all money invested in the fake case raffles. No smoke and mirriors, No deceptive numbers. Just raw refunds of the full price.
For the Richard Black Cue: I believe the suggestion made before would be ok, however, Im not so sure that every participant will be ok with it. I think that those who requested a refund prior to you running the raffle should be refunded, Just as you refunded mine. You should honestly eat that costs as a penalty for running the raffle even though people backed out.
Honestly, IF you want my bottom line, honest opinion...you have a choice to make here. The choices being to realize you have made a mistake, refund the money and take the hit, but in return, you save a little face on these forums and people wont look SO badly on you. OR, you take off and run with the money. Those are the only two outcomes I see. Your situation sucks, however, imagine being on this end.
Carl
I would like to apologize wholeheartedly for how aggresive I have been on some of my posts. I get a little wound up about stuff like this and I don't realize until after the fact how aggresive I can get with words. If I have misdirected or offended any unintentional parties, you have me deepest apologies.
I did not mean to come off as overbearing, insulting, or demeaning in any way. My demeanor was intended to demonstrate how frustrated, insulted, and cheated I felt. My other purpose was to ensure that we all were protected and shared knowledge / findings are IMO a key way to do that in this situation. I may have used unnecessary language or attacks to get my point across.
So please accept my deepest apologies for some of my recent posts, however, remain diligent and research everything about these transactions. I sincerely hope that this issue can get resolved in a matter that makes everyone satisfied, however, I cannot say that I am overly optimistic and for that I apologize as well.
tasaddicts,
Do whats right man. You know what you did was wrong. I wish that for my own piece of mind you would post admiting that you knew what you did was wrong...AND...your going to make it right by refunding all of the money involved with the case raffles. I can still say that I am less than optimistic that this will happen.
There are three issues at hand here:
1) The fake JB Cases and fake predator cases that you knowing attempted to pass off as authentic.
2) The richard black cue that people wanted refunds from, yet, you ran the raffle anyway.
3) other products that you have sold that are now in question due to your integrity being compromised.
For the issue of the cases. There is no way people will be satisfied with you only refunding your supposed profits based of numbers you throw at us. We as the consumer/victim cannot expect to pay for your overhead in a situation where you lied to us about the product. The only acceptable solution for this would be to refund all money invested in the fake case raffles. No smoke and mirriors, No deceptive numbers. Just raw refunds of the full price.
For the Richard Black Cue: I believe the suggestion made before would be ok, however, Im not so sure that every participant will be ok with it. I think that those who requested a refund prior to you running the raffle should be refunded, Just as you refunded mine. You should honestly eat that costs as a penalty for running the raffle even though people backed out.
Honestly, IF you want my bottom line, honest opinion...you have a choice to make here. The choices being to realize you have made a mistake, refund the money and take the hit, but in return, you save a little face on these forums and people wont look SO badly on you. OR, you take off and run with the money. Those are the only two outcomes I see. Your situation sucks, however, imagine being on this end.
Carl
Ok since the winner agreed. I will send the cue to a escrow service to check the authenticity of this cue.
If the black is proved to be fake.. I wil act accordingly.
I am sorry that I am unable to please everyone here.
I hope u all will find this fair.. I think CarlB agree in his post as well.
Lastly I would like to apologize again. I am sorry for the mistake and I wil do step by step to remedy this situation.. Thank you for your patience
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
You need to refund every person who bought a raffle ticket for the fake cases, not try to buy forgiveness from the ones who bought three or more tickets with a cheap freebie.
i would like to settle this richard black raffle first. after that i will proceed to settle the cases raffle.
i would be sending the cue to a escrow service. i am in the process of liaising with the escrow service.
i post updates here and pm info
i know this will take time but please be a little patient. thank you for your understanding.
i would be sending the cue to a escrow service. i am in the process of liaising with the escrow service.
i post updates here and pm info
i know this will take time but please be a little patient. thank you for your understanding.
Hey guys! Don't mind me interrupt but I'm almost 100% sure that this cue belonged to my friend. He traded It for Vollmer cue about a year ago. It's the 1'st Richard Black cue in Croatia and he got it directly from Mr. Black. I will contact him as quickly as I can to clear this problem (I believe he has some pictures of the cue). Hope that everything ends well!
Miro
Miro