27 Different Ways To Strike A Shot

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DrCue'sProtege

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was i right here?
i stopped at my uncle's house the other day, and they turned it over to some pool on ESPN. we were talking, and i made a comment to him that each and every shot could be hit 27 different ways. by this i mean:
1) High Right
2) Right
3) Low Right
4) High
5) Center
6) Low
7) High Left
8) Left
9) Low Left

and with the 3 different types of speeds, slow, medium, fast, multiply that by the 9 ways to hit a shot, and you have 27 different ways to play a shot.

does this make any sense to anyone?
DCP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
was i right here?
i stopped at my uncle's house the other day, and they turned it over to some pool on ESPN. we were talking, and i made a comment to him that each and every shot could be hit 27 different ways. by this i mean:
1) High Right
2) Right
3) Low Right
4) High
5) Center
6) Low
7) High Left
8) Left
9) Low Left

and with the 3 different types of speeds, slow, medium, fast, multiply that by the 9 ways to hit a shot, and you have 27 different ways to play a shot.

does this make any sense to anyone?
DCP
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kinda sorta.....no.

for all you lefts and rights.....you have about 3 different tip positions......and for going high and low.....you have 3 tip positions.

you also have masse, jump, downward rights..........stuff like that.........its pretty much a ton more ways than you listed to strike the cue.

VAP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
was i right here?
i stopped at my uncle's house the other day, and they turned it over to some pool on ESPN. we were talking, and i made a comment to him that each and every shot could be hit 27 different ways. by this i mean:
1) High Right
2) Right
3) Low Right
4) High
5) Center
6) Low
7) High Left
8) Left
9) Low Left

and with the 3 different types of speeds, slow, medium, fast, multiply that by the 9 ways to hit a shot, and you have 27 different ways to play a shot.

does this make any sense to anyone?
DCP
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What about hitting it with 1/2, 1, 1½ or 2 tips from center for spin, draw or top? How many different ways would that be?

Rick <--- I either strike it good or bad
 
And....

Closed or open bridge - If using a hard stroke or hitting toward edge of ball, I'll use a closed bridge to keep tip in contact with ball.

Or in the case of a "fouette type shot" for cue ball close to OB shots, I may use an open bridge, hit edge of cue ball - fast hit, and *want* the tip to fly off the cue ball to avoid a double hit.

Or may vary the amount of follow-through. I'll do this to get different amounts of draw back. Also will use excessive follow-through and a medium hit for the "hook shot" from book 99 critical shots.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
was i right here?
i stopped at my uncle's house the other day, and they turned it over to some pool on ESPN. we were talking, and i made a comment to him that each and every shot could be hit 27 different ways. by this i mean:
1) High Right
2) Right
3) Low Right
4) High
5) Center
6) Low
7) High Left
8) Left
9) Low Left

and with the 3 different types of speeds, slow, medium, fast, multiply that by the 9 ways to hit a shot, and you have 27 different ways to play a shot.

does this make any sense to anyone?
DCP
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I think your uncle wants to disown you now...
 
Splinterhands said:
Actually it's infinite.

1 mm high.
1.1 mm high
1.01 mm high
1.001 mm high
1.00001 mm high etc.

Good luck.
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I don't think it's infinite - the cue ball is of only limited size after all - but it's a hell of a lot more than 27. Probably closer to 500. I have maybe 27 different ways to hit a draw shot.
 
gromulan said:
I don't think it's infinite - the cue ball is of only limited size after all - but it's a hell of a lot more than 27. Probably closer to 500. I have maybe 27 different ways to hit a draw shot.
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Actually, no matter how large or small the ball is, there is still "technically" an infinite number of places which to hit.
 
Rackin_Zack said:
Actually, no matter how large or small the ball is, there is still "technically" an infinite number of places which to hit.
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but the ball itself is not infinite.......so how are there unlimited places?

getting a little trivial isn't it?

VAP
 
vapoolplayer said:
but the ball itself is not infinite.......so how are there unlimited places?

getting a little trivial isn't it?

VAP
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a point has no mass and doesn't take up any space, thus even in the smallest space there are still an infinite number of points. For example, if you have a 1mm x 1mm square, there are still an infinite number of points to hit.

That being said, hitting the cueball 2.128574mm from center isn't noticably different from hitting 2.128580mm from center. It is trivial, but that's my job as a math and science geek to bring up the trivial things...lol.
 
Rackin_Zack said:
a point has no mass and doesn't take up any space, thus even in the smallest space there are still an infinite number of points. For example, if you have a 1mm x 1mm square, there are still an infinite number of points to hit.

That being said, hitting the cueball 2.128574mm from center isn't noticably different from hitting 2.128580mm from center. It is trivial, but that's my job as a math and science geek to bring up the trivial things...lol.
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But surely not if you're also hitting those points with a cue tip of limited size?

Well now that I say that maybe you're right. That would also means that there's an infinite number of speed variables as well. Thus you end up with infinite x infinite, or infinite squared. If we assign xx as that number we still end up with xx>27. So there.
 
gromulan said:
But surely not if you're also hitting those points with a cue tip of limited size?

Well now that I say that maybe you're right. That would also means that there's an infinite number of speed variables as well. Thus you end up with infinite x infinite, or infinite squared. If we assign xx as that number we still end up with xx>27. So there.
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That is correct, even though you're tip hits an area of the ball, say a circle with a radius of .25mm, there are still an infinite number of circles with .25mm radii that can be hit because of all of the overlapping. Like VAP said, it doesn't matter that there are an infinite number of places to hit the ball, as long as you're within a certain margin of error of where you inteded to hit the ball it's not going to matter.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
was i right here?
each and every shot could be hit 27 different waysDCP
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DCP,
You and the rest of the posters are WAY OFF BASE. For each and every shot there is usually just ONE way to shoot it - the correct way. :) :)

P.S. - the real advantage in taking lessons from top pro's is to pick their brains as they shoot; it is extremely illuminating to hear their reasoning and thought processes as they play. There is almost never any doubt as to which is the correct way to strike any particular shot. I know this has little to do with your question, but I'm getting psyched up for my lesson with Grady in early June.
 
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gromulan said:
But surely not if you're also hitting those points with a cue tip of limited size?

Well now that I say that maybe you're right. That would also means that there's an infinite number of speed variables as well. Thus you end up with infinite x infinite, or infinite squared. If we assign xx as that number we still end up with xx>27. So there.
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Infinite....

Obvious example

1. Let's call the core center of the cue ball - R
2. Let's call the top portion - T
3. and let's take a distance halfway between T and R - H.
4. Then let's assign T = H

You can repeat steps 3 and 4, infinitely.


But, as you say, at some point, it doesn't make much difference....
 
Fun Topic... but

If this thread is to determine how many ways it is possible to strike a cue- ball, my answer would it is impossible to determine. Therefore, I'm in favor of the "Infinity" conclusion that others have posted.

As a professional instructor, my suggestion is to know that there are only nine basic points of aim on the cue-ball -

1-3. Top left / top / top right
4-6. Center left / center / center right
7-9. Bottom left / bottom / bottom right

With the "Infinite" cue-ball hit rule in mind and enough time to practice an infinite number of possible shots, think more about how the mind can subconsciously compute the correct hit for the given shot.

Fun topic... but when my bridge hand touches the table, I choose to turn off any and all conscious thoughts.
 
hmmmmm

Seems to me that there are more things to consider than english and speed. Besides the endless discussion on the infinite cueball... there is also a matter of how straight your strokes follow through is, how far your strokes follow through is, how loose or tight your grip is... most of this has to do with how long the cue tip stays in contact with the cue ball, no matter what speed you shoot at you can get different results from the cueball (even with the same speed)
 
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