4 Bridged Points - Purple Heart / Bocoto

[Tony Zinzola]

4 Bridged Points - Purple Heart / Bacote

Not entirely happy with this one, but will post it anyway. Still has potential to end up firewood. I'm not happy with the glue line between the points and the purple heart ring. We'll see how it looks when it's done and if I don't like it, I'll burn it. Figured since it was my first attempt with the bridged points, I would go ahead and finish it up.

 

[BlowFish]

I know you guys are perfectionist, but a few issues here and there that doesn't affect playability in not bad at all.

What's the specs on this one?

 

[icem3n]

Not entirely happy with this one, but will post it anyway. Still has potential to end up firewood. I'm not happy with the glue line between the points and the purple heart ring. We'll see how it looks when it's done and if I don't like it, I'll burn it. Figured since it was my first attempt with the bridged points, I would go ahead and finish it up.

Why burn it? Let me have it at raw material price

 

[nick serdula]

I will go one better

Sell it.
Good luck! The cue looks way to nice to stake tomatoes with.
Nick 850-474-0628

 

[cutter]

4 point

Tony, I think you're being a little hard on your self on the glue line. Almost impossible to glue purpleheart, and a lot of other woods together with out the glue line. Sometimes you have to build that into your design process. I try to think about how all the pieces will go together before I settle on a design. Dark next to light is always better looking than light to light or same to same.

 

[snowmon34]

Tony,

Awsome looking cue!!.....you have a great eye for wood and veneer combinations......keep up the great work...

Dale

 

[bruin70]

I know you guys are perfectionist, but a few issues here and there that doesn't affect playability in not bad at all.

tony,,,the bad ones always come back to bite you in the @ss.

don't compromise your standards.

 

[BlowFish]

tony,,,the bad ones always come back to bite you in the @ss.

don't compromise your standards.

Bruin, That is so true in most situation.

In this case, I really don't mind as long as the CM (Tony) is upfront about the imperfection. As I said, as long as it doesn't affect playability, it's all good to me. Tony was upfront to everyone about the issues with this cue and some of us are still interested. There should be no issues with "coming back to bite Tony's @$$" as it will be moronic to do so.

It's a different story when I commission someone to make me a cue and it turns out with imperfections and the CM was not upfront about it.

 

[bruin70]

Bruin, That is so true in most situation.

In this case, I really don't mind as long as the CM (Tony) is upfront about the imperfection. As I said, as long as it doesn't affect playability, it's all good to me. Tony was upfront to everyone about the issues with this cue and some of us are still interested. There should be no issues with "coming back to bite Tony's @$$" as it will be moronic to do so.

It's a different story when I commission someone to make me a cue and it turns out with imperfections and the CM was not upfront about it.

but it's ALL about what tony thinks,,,no one else. he doesn't want the cue to leave his shop, then it won't leave his shop. it's not about "this cue plays GREAT, tony,,,let me buy it."

i submit that there is no difference between commisioned works and non-commissioned works. the integrity of craft lies within the craftsman. there is nothing to be learned from imperfection when you know it should have been perfect,,,,other than you have just learned that people will accept your second best, which is a VERY dangerous thing to learn.

 

[Black-Balled]

Tony, I think you're being a little hard on your self on the glue line. Almost impossible to glue purpleheart, and a lot of other woods together with out the glue line. Sometimes you have to build that into your design process. I try to think about how all the pieces will go together before I settle on a design. Dark next to light is always better looking than light to light or same to same.

Wow- If Steve sez it, take it as truth! An incredible nod to your work!

 

[Tony Zinzola]

When I get the cue finished, I'll decide what I think of it. If I don't like it, it will stay with me. As it was, I put this one together for somebody who gave me an idea of what he liked.

I should have taken a picture of the fire my wife and I had the other night. My mistakes fueled the fire.

 

[cuenut]

If you are happy with how the rest of the pointwork came out, would it be too hard to simply replace the handle section including the purpleheart ring and make it a nice traditional 4 pointer? Don't know your specific construction techniques, or you could simply put a wrap on it to cover over the bridge. Nice looking color combinations, and I like it as well, but you are the final judge of what leaves your shop. I'm with bruin on this one. If you don't like it, buy marshmallows or make a jump cue. At least you won't lose the whole thing!

 

[DiamondDave]

but it's ALL about what tony thinks,,,no one else. he doesn't want the cue to leave his shop, then it won't leave his shop. it's not about "this cue plays GREAT, tony,,,let me buy it."

i submit that there is no difference between commisioned works and non-commissioned works. the integrity of craft lies within the craftsman. there is nothing to be learned from imperfection when you know it should have been perfect,,,,other than you have just learned that people will accept your second best, which is a VERY dangerous thing to learn.

The other problem with selling a flawed cue is the original purchaser may be ok with the flaw but he could sell it to someone as a perfect cue or just not tell the person. Now this cue is out there with your name on it with a flaw without anyone knowing it was sold knowing about the flaw. As a cuemaker its not good to have a bad example of your work out there on display regardless of the situation.

Dave

 

[Bishop]

I don't know what kind of price point you are in but I might be interested in the cue and I'd keep it. I can assure you it would never be sold. I keep all my cues, the good, the bad, the ugly.

I really like the wood combo.

 

[misterpoole]

The other problem with selling a flawed cue is the original purchaser may be ok with the flaw but he could sell it to someone as a perfect cue or just not tell the person. Now this cue is out there with your name on it with a flaw without anyone knowing it was sold knowing about the flaw. As a cuemaker its not good to have a bad example of your work out there on display regardless of the situation.

Dave

A recent thread was a great example. I misaligned arrowhead was displayed for the world to see.
BTW very nice looking cue. I like the contrast of the woods and veneers used.

 

[Snapshot9]

Cue ...

You may not be happy, but that is the best purpleheart/bacote combination I have seen, and the bridged points look nice (nice look to it). Just me, but I would put a slighter darker than the Bacote leather wrap on it.

Just make the buyer sign a piece of paper saying that everytime someone asks about the cue, he will state he got a discount on it because of a glue line flaw, which is NOT common...... LOL

 

[Tony Zinzola]

I don't know what kind of price point you are in but I might be interested in the cue and I'd keep it. I can assure you it would never be sold. I keep all my cues, the good, the bad, the ugly.

I really like the wood combo.

It's not about price points. I'm sure my price would be low enough, flawed or not flawed. If I am not happy with it, I wouldn't want somebody to have to look at it all the time. I have already concluded that I will never make the perfect cue. At least to satisfy myself. Having looked at it the entire time I've been working on it, just lets me see every flaw, no mater how minute, magnified 100x.

I started doing this because it was something I always wanted to do and now I'm in a position where I can afford it. For every $1 I get from a cue, I will probably spend another $50 on supplies and materials. Today I got 4 packages from UPS and that's probably not it for the week. I have more kinds of glue now than I even knew existed a year or two ago.

Frankly I was quite shocked when I got requests from people for cues. I found this site only a few months ago and decided I would post pictures of some my stuff to get some feedback.

I do appreciate all of the kind words on the cues, but if I can't be happy with it, I wouldn't want to sell it to somebody.

Thanks again. I really do appreciate the comments. Positive and negative.

 

[Realizm]

It's not about price points. I'm sure my price would be low enough, flawed or not flawed. If I am not happy with it, I wouldn't want somebody to have to look at it all the time. I have already concluded that I will never make the perfect cue. At least to satisfy myself. Having looked at it the entire time I've been working on it, just lets me see every flaw, no mater how minute, magnified 100x.

I started doing this because it was something I always wanted to do and now I'm in a position where I can afford it. For every $1 I get from a cue, I will probably spend another $50 on supplies and materials. Today I got 4 packages from UPS and that's probably not it for the week. I have more kinds of glue now than I even knew existed a year or two ago.

Frankly I was quite shocked when I got requests from people for cues. I found this site only a few months ago and decided I would post pictures of some my stuff to get some feedback.

I do appreciate all of the kind words on the cues, but if I can't be happy with it, I wouldn't want to sell it to somebody.

Thanks again. I really do appreciate the comments. Positive and negative.

Tony is what you can call a true artist. If it not right BURN IT.....

 

[Koop]

Whatever you decide to do I can only say, don't give up on that wood combo. It's a looker.