4" section of 1.5" snakewood! WANTED!!!

jbravo2984

jbravo2984

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The title says it all! I don't need to be buying a foot long section of snakewood for $$50 or $60 just for a buttsleeve, so if ANYbody out there has a small piece they can spare for sale, please give me a call at 815 980 7512. thanks guys!
 
SNAKEWOOD butt piece for $How Much??? LOL!

Would be a nice find! If you can find some decent figured snakewood a foot long for what you said, you would be fortunate. And if it is already round, and cored out without cracking, and you buy it for the pitance you are hinting at, you stole it! Must have had a gun on the guy selling it! IMHO.
 
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If you can get a foot of highly figured 1.5" snake wood for $50 let me know. I'll even shake that crack heads hand.
 
If I read the original post correctly, he's only looking for a 4 inch piece of snakewood.

Alan
 
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Lee, you make a good point. Pm sent. :)


LPCUSTOMCUES said:
Just to be clear.. the $40 was shipped.
If it cost $10 to ship priority, then you would be spending $30 for the wood.

If you think I had a negative tone or was rude, I apologize. Wasn't my intention. I am very busy and thats why I asked to be PMed.

I will say this. Unless you plan on letting it dry for a year or more, any piece you get from Bell Forest or Ebay will be useless, no matter how you turn it or bore it. None of the pieces on either site are dry. Been there......

The piece I have is figured on all four sides and has been in my shop drying for well over a year. So its safe to use. I would figure spending a little more to get a usable piece would be worth it. $40 is what I paid for it and that is the price I quoted.

I am being completely honest when I say good luck in your search.
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1-1/2" square snakewood usually runs closer to $12.00-$15.00 per inch of length.
 
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Snakewood is one of the heaviest, hardest, most dense woods in the world and can take up to 40 years to dry properly so as not to check. I used a piece once that was aged 15 years and when I started turning it it checked right in front of me. I have no clue why people insist upon using it in a cue knowing it's going to bring nothing but trouble and heart aches down the road.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
Snakewood is one of the heaviest, hardest, most dense woods in the world and can take up to 40 years to dry properly so as not to check. I used a piece once that was aged 15 years and when I started turning it it checked right in front of me. I have no clue why people insist upon using it in a cue knowing it's going to bring nothing but trouble and heart aches down the road.

Dick
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And they expect to pay next to nothing for a 'seasoned' piece.....
 
Dave38 said:
And they expect to pay next to nothing for a 'seasoned' piece.....
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I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but just to be clear, I never said I needed a seasoned piece.
Dick, I'm aware of everything you stated with regards to the rarity of snakewood, it's composition, characteristics, cost, etc... I agree with regards to stability in the wood and how it really isn't a best choice for cue building. However, when it comes to buttsleeves and point-wood, I'm not as terrified to use it as I would for a handle or forearm. As you stated and Darrin hill has noted in another thread, snakewood can never fully be considered seasoned or stable enough to be considered check or crack-proof. Your knowledge and advice is always welcome. To the others cracking jokes (perhaps I'm Taking some comments in the wrong way), I'm not so wet behind the ears that I don't know the characteristics and costs of different materials used in cuemaking. This ain't my first rodeo :)
 
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Don't get your hackles up JBravo, I thought it was funny that there was another cuemaker out their as frugile as I am !.
You wanted to buy one piece just big enough for a buttsleeve. To me that meant a seasoned piece, as you are buying just enough to make the sleeve, no room for cracks or warpage. No room for error. The wood we see at the exotic wood dealers is all waxed and pretty, as you know, and often a finicky wood like snakewood cracks and checks in the drying process and becomes useable for inlay slabs at best.
That is where I was coming from, I got a piece drying now, that I am holding my breath about, wondering if it will survive! Now if you said a wet, or waxed piece, that is a different story. But you must like to gamble, to buy one piece. More importantly: if you said wet, you take away the risk from the seller. The seller does not have to worry about the wood splitting and having it spread around that he sold a bogus piece of wood! SO apologies from a cuemaker that has been bitten by snake-wood in the past.
 
Hi,

I bought an 18" piece of snakewood from bell forest about 6 years ago at the Super billiard expo as a show special price on sunday. I got the piece for $ 140.00. It's price all week was $ 180.00. I turned it and let it hang for over 4 years.

About 18 months ago I full cored a cue using it and glued it up with Gorilla Glue. I was worried about the piece while gun drilling but it cored without cracking. I was also worried while cutting the point grooves but is was ok. The cracking will not occur from turning, coring or milling. It comes from movement over time. So if you do your work on the piece, get it glued right away.

The guy who bought the cue was at my shop a few weeks ago and I buffed it and waxed it for him. I inspected the snakewood forearm and butt sleeve very close and saw no cracking at all and it looked beautiful.

I guess my point is that installing points with west system and coring using expanding polyurethane glue to fill the gaps may be the best way to go concerning snakewood because it gives more structure and stability. But who knows.

I don't think I would build a plain jane out of snakewood.:nono:

Rick
 
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I don’t understand the stuff at all so I’m done messing with it. I built a cue 4 years ago out of a half log I bought and had no problems. I’ve tried to duplicate it twice and have failed due to cracks right before I finish it. This is my personal cue and I’ll probably never sell it partly because of how it plays and partly because I’m still waiting. Every squirrel finds a nut I guess. :angry:

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olsonsview said:
Don't get your hackles up JBravo, I thought it was funny that there was another cuemaker out their as frugile as I am !.
You wanted to buy one piece just big enough for a buttsleeve. To me that meant a seasoned piece, as you are buying just enough to make the sleeve, no room for cracks or warpage. No room for error. The wood we see at the exotic wood dealers is all waxed and pretty, as you know, and often a finicky wood like snakewood cracks and checks in the drying process and becomes useable for inlay slabs at best.
That is where I was coming from, I got a piece drying now, that I am holding my breath about, wondering if it will survive! Now if you said a wet, or waxed piece, that is a different story. But you must like to gamble, to buy one piece. More importantly: if you said wet, you take away the risk from the seller. The seller does not have to worry about the wood splitting and having it spread around that he sold a bogus piece of wood! SO apologies from a cuemaker that has been bitten by snake-wood in the past.
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apology accepted. I'm quick to judge new faces (to me) on this site considering some of the wacko personalities we have on here. It's not really a matter of being frugal. It's a matter of being broke :) I have to gamble a little, because I can't afford not to.

The Snakewood at the place I would Normally buy it from, was harvested 2 years ago and air dried as a log for that 2 years. The turning squares were cut a month ago and are at approx moisture content of 10-11%. that's what the wood air dries at in this particular area. According to the provider, if turned round and drilled out, that would speed up the drying process. Which would take about a month or so to naturally reach it's drying potential for my climate. The wood he has, meets my needs and I should probably just go through him. I was simply hoping there was someone on here that had a small piece they'd part with for about $25-$30.
I may be kinda new to cuemaking and conversing with the others who make cues, but I do know a thing or two.

I guess I felt like my words were being doubted and I was being made fun of because Some of you may not recognize me as a person who would have any knowledge of cuemaking and it's processes. There are users on here that know otherwise and I'm not out to prove myself quite yet. But I dont expect to have to defend myself either. Az is a great community built on people helping eachother and friendships made. There are a few cancerous personalities in the community, but I'm still weeding them out :) please feel free to offer your criticism, knowledge and advice to me in the future, as I will always value it. Just be careful how you say things. Light-hearted humor sometimes comes off more abrasive than intended. Sorry to be so sensitive. Like I said, I'm still sorting out the bad eggs of the group :)
 
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