50 greatest of all time

trinacria

trinacria

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this is not my list, im starting a new one, taking out 3cushion players.
NEW POLL ON MAIN FORUM, MULTIPLE CHOICES
THE POLL HAS TWO PARTS. PART 1 PLUS PART 2 . THEY ARE BOTH ON MAIN FORUM

1999, billiards digest gave us the best 50 of the century. #1 was a carom champion, willie hoppe. I play pool, most of us in this country do, that means 15 colored balls, a white ball and six pockets, the game is a variation of any of that, 9,8, 10, 14.1, you get the picture. and although willie was peobably the greatest of all time in his game, I want to make it about pool and include some of todays talent. someone probably already did this, but I haven't seen it. Anyone willing to start a poll, which I have no clue how to do, is much appreciated. heres the original:
truth be told, no clue who some of these are.
give me some names I should include, ill start a poll
50. Jersey Red
49. Allen Gilbert
48. Jeanette Lee
47. Jimmy Moore
46. Dorothy Wise
45. Otto Reiselt
44. Babe Cranfield
43. Lou Butera
42. John Horgan
41. Cisero Murphy
40. Jerome Keogh
39. Allen Hopkins
38. Dallas West
37. Jim Rempe
36. George Sutton
35. Charlie Peterson
34. Robert Cannefax
33. Bennie Allen
32. Ray Martin
31. Ruth McGinnis
30. Johnny Archer
29. Efren Reyes
28. Loree Jon Jones
27. Buddy Hall
26. Larry Johnson (Boston Shorty)
25. Eddie Taylor
24. Jake Shaefer
23. Thomas Hueston
22. Andrew Ponzi
21. Welker Cochran
20. Erwin Rudolph
19. Harold Worst
18. Allison Fisher
17. Earl Strickland
16. Joe Balsis
15. Jean Balukas
14. Nick Varner
13. Johnny Layton
12. Jake Shaefer Jr.
11. Sang Lee
10. Jimmy Caras
9. Luther Lassiter
8. Irving Crane
7. Frank Taberski
6. Steve Mizerak
5. Mike Sigel
4. Alfredo De Oro
3. Ralph Greenleaf
2. Willie Mosconi
1. Willie Hoppe
 
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order?

Are these in any particular order. If they are then you have to have Efren and Johnny and Buddy near the top . And where is Busty.
 
That list is a joke...unless I don't understand the criteria.

I think ladies should be a separate list.

and I think it should be separated by decades.

It would be interesting to see how many make the list in different decades.
 
warfdiesel said:
Are these in any particular order. If they are then you have to have Efren and Johnny and Buddy near the top . And where is Busty.
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My thoughts exactly. Especially if we are talking about an all around player. Efren should be in the top 3 if not number 1 "IMO". Ralph Souquet should probably make it somewhere on the list also.
 
trinacria said:
this is the original, give firsrt and last name of person I should include
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I think your list is pretty good. I would definitely include SVB. But my question is this. You haveEfren at number 29. Do you really think that there are 28 people to ever play better pool then Efren?
 
warfdiesel said:
I think your list is pretty good. I would definitely include SVB. But my question is this. You haveEfren at number 29. Do you really think that there are 28 people to ever play better pool then Efren?
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Efren Reyes the best all around player of all time !!
 
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The longer the list the tougher it is to make if you are ging off of a persons level of play and if it's in that particular order. Making a top 10 over the last 50 years would be interesting. Or maybe a list by decade then narrowing it down from the top 5 of each. It's always going to be debated on how today's players would fair against those of long ago but no one can really argue that no one in the last 50 years would like playing Shane in their prime. That being said he would have to be near the top of a "best of all time list" even at his current age.
 
I think that the original list is the overall best list from Billiards Digest from 1999. Obviously, looking at 1999, SVB wouldn't be on the all-time greatest list.
 
PaulieB said:
I think that the original list is the overall best list from Billiards Digest from 1999. Obviously, looking at 1999, SVB wouldn't be on the all-time greatest list.
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Shane makes it now along with Francisco Bustamante & Ralph Souquet IMO.
 
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its the original list from 1999. I took out all the 3cushion players. vote on overall talent, championships, ambassodor of the game. I agrre with this list being off, so im starting a new one.
 
My top 10 would be something like this. Top 50 is really hard.

1. Efren Reyes
2. Buddy Hall
3. Earl Strickland
4. Nick Varner
5 Willie Mosconi
6. Johnny Archer
7. Mike Sigel
8. Willie Hoppe
9. Francisco Bustamante
10. Minnesota Fatts
 
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What, no Minnesota Fats? :eek:

Given the perpetual sorry state of pool with the general public, he has to be among the greatest....promoter.

Somehow I feel like this is asking who was the greatest band of all time? People always chose the band they loved when they were 16 years old. There is a time in our lives when something makes a BIG impression and nothing else can knock it off its pedestal, regardless of the "facts."

Even though I've only been playing pool for 2 years, I have to answer Efren Reyes because his play made the biggest impression on me (via youtube.com). Others may have been far greater, but you'll never convince me of that.
 
bdorman said:
What, no Minnesota Fats? :eek:

Given the perpetual sorry state of pool with the general public, he has to be among the greatest....promoter.

Somehow I feel like this is asking who was the greatest band of all time? People always chose the band they loved when they were 16 years old. There is a time in our lives when something makes a BIG impression and nothing else can knock it off its pedestal, regardless of the "facts."

Even though I've only been playing pool for 2 years, I have to answer Efren Reyes because his play made the biggest impression on me (via youtube.com). Others may have been far greater, but you'll never convince me of that.
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I edited my top 10 :-). This is a great thread

Top 10 IMO

1. Efren Reyes
2. Buddy Hall
3. Earl Strickland
4. Nick Varner
5 Willie Mosconi
6. Johnny Archer
7. Mike Sigel
8. Willie Hoppe
9. Francisco Bustamante
10. Minnesota Fatts
 
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No List without!!

Bugs! The Best Bank Pool player in the world!

James Evans!! The Best 14.1 player for Money ever!!

Efren Reyes! The Best ever, period!!!
 
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