6Pocket

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Opinions on 6Pocket. John Schmidt is sponsored by and promoting this. Conflict with APA or BCA?
 
I went to their home page / Buzz page
http://www.6pocketleague.com/01_buzz.asp

I read through everything and it looks a lot like equal offense, but with only one rack of balls instead of going into a second set of balls.

The part that looses me, is how is it organized locally. I guess I'm missing that. There aren't any teams, so do do you just show up at a pool hall that has 6PL and shoot a couple of racks? Does the pool hall have a date and time, and then who ever wants is part of 6PL shows up at that time and then they do their 5 racks (or how ever many racks are determined) and then that's it? I guess even after reading everything on the site, it's still a little foggy to me.
Who does the scoring? Is there a designated scorer for this? Is it an honor system? I'm missing the organization at the local level.
 
i don't get it, it's like 14.1 continuous without the continuous? like FARGO without the rotation option and one rack?
 
Went back to the site, looked through all the FAQ's and had some of my earlier questions answered.

The only that has me a little concerned is only 30% of the money you put in, is slated to be put into the prize fund.

Most of the leagues I play in now have a much higher percentage going into a prize fund.

On their FAQ page, the question was:
Is there a charge to play 6 POCKET at a Sanctioned Facility?

The answer was:
In almost every case, yes.
Whenever you play 6 POCKET just for fun, you should expect to pay whatever the standard rate for any billiards game in that facility may be.
If you are playing in a sanctioned 6 Pocket League Competition, you should expect to pay a $10.00 entry fee. Remember that 30% of every entry fee collected is set aside for cash prizes.
If you are playing in an Official Level Play Handicapping Session, you should expect to pay $3.00. Typically, there are no cash prises or set-asides from the handicapping sessions.
Whether or not the Sanctioned Facility charges addtional monies for the use of the table and other equipment in these two scenarios is soley up to the discretion of the facility.
From time to time, Sanctioned Facilities may, at their sole discretion, sponsor 6 Pocket League Competitions and/or Tournaments outside of regular 6 Pocket League play.

Does this mean that 70% of the money collected is going back to 6PL operators? If so, that's a pretty nice cut.

I'm not sure about you, but if I entered a tournament, and it cost me 10 bucks, but only 3 bucks were going to the prize fund, I think I would find another tournament to go to. That's just me though.

I've gone through the rest of the FAQ's and don't see what happens to the other 70% of the monies.

Sounds like it would be an interesting game, but not much of a pay back.
 
not a fan, but then again i'm not a huge 14.1 fan, because it's like playing yourself (or in this case, it is). i like playing against an opponent, and strategy, not just pure pool skill (14.1). Safeties are a great part of the game. Even worse is that this is significantly watered down 14.1.

However, I think it will be good for newer players that are serious about the game, because it essentially makes them practice like this, which is good, and it is ridiculously easy to have a league of this type going. I don't think it will be popular, because it won't be fun for the casual player hanging out with friends. Who is going to go out and play this with friends when its just practicing with friends watching? Then again, I have had some fun playing bowliards.
 
I love to play 6 pocket!

I hope they get it organized so that they can have some competitions from it.

Basically, I use it to warm up, or just practice (when I can).

I play 10 racks and keep up with the total points. Obviously, if you ran all 15 racks, you would have 150 points, or an average of 15. I don't usually get to do all 10 racks, but I average somewhere around 12 to 13 usually.

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
I think the reason it's like other games is that it's been pared down to the bare essentials of a game: the simplest way to score points and count them with the fewest rules. I admire that about it.

pj <- betting it's worth a point to have ball in hand after the break
chgo
 
Someone please confirm what the objective of 6 pocket is because the 6 pocket I've played was very similar to golf as an earlier poster stated but then someone compared it to 14.1 continuous and I'm lost. Which one is it? The 6 pocket I've played is a very cutthroat like game where you don't have many friends but everyone seems to be an enemy.
 
I met with a cofounder last night at a fast eddies on my league night. The man gave me a booklet with an entry code and said that they were trying to get enough players together to start tournaments where a player could win millions and he mentioned some big corporate names that arent normally associated with pool. Such as the chickfila 6 pocket challenge. Just for example. He seemed nice even after a good grilling. Iv practiced this game before just to warm up and I hope that it works out. He said it would be 15 racks back to back and explained a few rules to me. It seems like it could be a fun event to truly see where you stand with your competition.
 
I think the reason it's like other games is that it's been pared down to the bare essentials of a game: the simplest way to score points and count them with the fewest rules. I admire that about it.

pj <- betting it's worth a point to have ball in hand after the break
chgo

Patrick,

It teaches you that you need to control the cue ball on the break!

Actually, if you find that you don't have a shot immediately after the break, you can take ball in hand behind the line and it costs you one point. Kind of like an unplayable lie in golf. You can then only score 14 in that game obviously.
 
do you lose a point if you scratch on the break? reading it breifly i didn't see anything about it, so why not get a free behind the line by intentionally knocking the cue ball off the table?
(the rule should be added if it isn't)
 
do you lose a point if you scratch on the break? reading it breifly i didn't see anything about it, so why not get a free behind the line by intentionally knocking the cue ball off the table?
(the rule should be added if it isn't)

Johnny, yes it does cost you a point if you scratch or commit any other foul on the break as well as any balls pocketed are spotted, you place the cue ball behind the line and you start your turn with all 15 balls on the table and if you run out your score would be 14, not 15 because of the penalty point. At the players discretion on the first shot only after the break, you can declare an unplayable shot and take a 1 point penalty by placing the cue ball behind the line and starting your first called shot.

To make sure it's clear, any time the cue ball is placed behind the line, your first called shot must be in front of the line.

After your turn starts, any missed shot or foul ends your turn. A foul after you have started your turn does not cost you a point, it only ends your turn. In league play it will be cue ball foul only and for the pros it will be all ball foul.

Hope this helps, I am the founder of the game and would be happy to explain any part anyone doesn't understand.:)

If anyone is around the Birmingham Alabama area, John Schmidt will be puting on an exhibition of 6 Pocket at the Birmingham Race Track Saturday night at their Club Quincy. 7:00pm

Sunday he will be in Huntsville Alabama at Shooters doing the same at 5:00pm.
 
Dick Clark,

How are things? I hope all is going well.

I think I heard that you may be in Vegas for the BCA Nationals. I hope that is true! I would like to see you again.

If you are there, come find me and I will buy you a beer at the

OB Cues Tar Bar.

I hope to see you there!


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
Someone please confirm what the objective of 6 pocket is because the 6 pocket I've played was very similar to golf as an earlier poster stated but then someone compared it to 14.1 continuous and I'm lost. Which one is it? The 6 pocket I've played is a very cutthroat like game where you don't have many friends but everyone seems to be an enemy.

In 6 pocket you can shooy any ball in any pocket. You receive 1 point per ball. Once you miss a shot you are done and rerack the balls for your next turn.
In golf you only get 1 ball, this is usually played on a snooker table. You try to make your ball in each pocket going in a clockwise motion around the table. Of course the guy you follow tries not to leave you any straight in shots. Any number of players can play.
 
Went back to the site, looked through all the FAQ's and had some of my earlier questions answered.

The only that has me a little concerned is only 30% of the money you put in, is slated to be put into the prize fund.
Does this mean that 70% of the money collected is going back to 6PL operators? If so, that's a pretty nice cut.

I'm not sure about you, but if I entered a tournament, and it cost me 10 bucks, but only 3 bucks were going to the prize fund, I think I would find another tournament to go to. That's just me though.

I've gone through the rest of the FAQ's and don't see what happens to the other 70% of the monies.

Sounds like it would be an interesting game, but not much of a pay back.

To clear up any missunderstandings about the money, I'll do my best to explain. When you play in a regular 6 Pocket competition at a sanctioned facility it is like playing on a regular league night, it is not a tournament. I don't know for sure but I don't think most leagues give back any of the fees collected the night of play. So you'll know the breakdown, $1.00 goes into the year end Regional Tournament, $1.50 is split in commissions between league coordinator and league rep, $.50 goes into our pro tour fund and $2.00 goes to cover expenses involved in running a league.

As you can see from above, any amount charged, above what we collect, is up to the sanctioned facility to distribute as they see fit to help their business. Note: 1 Room in Houston is going to put the $5.00 back from their $10.00 entry but save up the money and actually have a Monthly 2 game tournament for the money collected. The only requirement is you must have played at least 4 times during that month.

I hope I have answered your questions. We are just starting this league and so far it looks like Alabama and Texas are going to be the 2 targeted states to start. Fast Eddies in San Antonio is on board. [/COLOR]
 
Dick Clark,

How are things? I hope all is going well.

I think I heard that you may be in Vegas for the BCA Nationals. I hope that is true! I would like to see you again.

If you are there, come find me and I will buy you a beer at the

OB Cues Tar Bar.

I hope to see you there!


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com

Yes!! I will be there on the 11th. Sam will be there on the 8th. We will see you in the TARBAR and have more than 1.

We wil be introducing 6 Pocket at that event.........exciting.

Dick Clark
 
Dick,

I know it hasn't been announced yet, but it will be the

OB Cues

Tar Bar!



I will see you and Sam there. We get there on the 4th to watch the Hatch Appleton match in person!


Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
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