8-Ball "Official Rules" in Contrast with "Bar Rules"

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FYI, I just posted a new video that discusses and demonstrates the “official rules” of 8-ball, and shows why it is a much better choice than common “bar rules.” Check it out:


Contents:
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Official Rules of Pool
1:00 - 8-Ball Rules
4:50 - Double Hit Fouls
8:33 - Other Common Fouls
9:59 - Wrap Up

As always, I look forward to your feedback, comments, questions, complaints, and requests.

Enjoy!
 
dr_dave said:
FYI, I just posted a new video that discusses and demonstrates the “official rules” of 8-ball, and shows why it is a much better choice than common “bar rules.” Check it out:


Contents:
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Official Rules of Pool
1:00 - 8-Ball Rules
4:50 - Double Hit Fouls
8:33 - Other Common Fouls
9:59 - Wrap Up

As always, I look forward to your feedback, comments, questions, complaints, and requests.

Enjoy!
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1-ball does not need to be on the foot spot.
 
1. At 1:50 you say if you scratch on the break, it's BIH in the kitchen? Why not BIH anywhere? I thought the only use for a kitchen was when breaking these days?

2. At 8:45 cue ball fouls. I thought it was cue ball fouls only these days. So a shirt touching a ball or only touching one non-cue ball is a BIH foul (at which point you have to ask if the opponent if they would like to replace it where it was)?

I always played that way in the old days but these days? People in my league would have a hissy fit if you called a BIH foul. Personally, I would prefer that because people have gotten lackadaisical and don't really try hard enough to not touch balls. And, they think it's O.K. to touch 2+ balls, cue ball fouls only -- yeah right.
 
WoodyJ said:
1. At 1:50 you say if you scratch on the break, it's BIH in the kitchen? Why not BIH anywhere? I thought the only use for a kitchen was when breaking these days?

2. At 8:45 cue ball fouls. I thought it was cue ball fouls only these days. So a shirt touching a ball or only touching one non-cue ball is a BIH foul (at which point you have to ask if the opponent if they would like to replace it where it was)?

I always played that way in the old days but these days? People in my league would have a hissy fit if you called a BIH foul. Personally, I would prefer that because people have gotten lackadaisical and don't really try hard enough to not touch balls. And, they think it's O.K. to touch 2+ balls, cue ball fouls only -- yeah right.
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I think the ball in hand for a scratch on the break is a league rule, but it seems to be more prevalent than ball in kitchen among the people I play. I think full table ball in hand is too big of a penalty for a scratch on the break in 8 ball.

As far as the other fouls, it seems like cue ball fouls only is typical but I haven't seen a definitive definition. In a friendly game I go with the flow but I'd like to see more discipline, including from myself.
 
As far as I know it's still BIH in the kitchen if the scratch is on the break but not after. As for cue ball fouls only I see that alot in league play but not during tournaments.
 
WoodyJ said:
1. At 1:50 you say if you scratch on the break, it's BIH in the kitchen? Why not BIH anywhere?
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Because the rules are the rules. CSI/BCAPL differs on this, allowing BIH anywhere on the table after the break.


WoodyJ said:
2. At 8:45 cue ball fouls. I thought it was cue ball fouls only these days.
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... only in leagues and some tournaments, not under the "official rules" of pool.
 
Dr. Dave, your example shot at 4:20 is the bar rules nightmare scenario. If that occurred in a real game, it would immediately cause a large-scale bar fight probably resulting in at least one fatality. You are clearly a billiards sadist to conceptualize such a shot, even for science.
 
Jedco said:
Dr. Dave, your example shot at 4:20 is the bar rules nightmare scenario. If that occurred in a real game, it would immediately cause a large-scale bar fight probably resulting in at least one fatality. You are clearly a billiards sadist to conceptualize such a shot, even for science.
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That was a fun shot to both plan and execute. It took me a few tries to make it as nightmarish as possible. I think I succeeded. 🤓
 
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