8 ball patterns. 9 ball shape.
Can't agree more...Behind the line fouls just adds difficulty to the run out. Ball in hand does simplify it. It is that easy.
Invented reason...? Common place when the option and beneficial circumstances present itself.Sure, someone could intentionally foul with the cue ball for some invented reason you might recite.
'A lot' may be stretching it a bit but yes, definitely harder if the desired shot isn't a high % from behind the line.The reality is shooting from the kitchen is a lot harder than placing the cue ball anywhere you desire.
BIH does make shooting the ball after the foul way easier, and should make the subsequent shape easier as well. However it's also a fitting penalty for a foul. The notion that I should be hampered by the 'behind the line' rules after my opponent screws up, is head scratching. Behind the line around my parts is considered a barbox banger rule akin to bs rules applied to potting allowances of the 8 ball.Ball in hand makes the game easier & also speeds up completion but there’s always some exceptions.
Hardly... call pocket is nearly inconsequencial when you start playing north of >625 talent. Sure, fortunate shots do happen but there's no way call pocket is the reasoning behind the supposed extra difficulty.10 ball played by normal rules is more difficult than 9 due to an extra object ball but mainly called pockets.
I took up straight pool as my covid game of practice. While it certainly is a different style of game and takes a bit to gain some decent results. I have to wonder if it's more challenging then one pocket. A game that I've never played. That thought is simply based on chatter from players of both.8 ball is a game unique to itself but straight pool is the most challenging in terms of skills and knowledge.
I completely agree with your first sentence . admittedly i am not much of a gambler i refuse to gamble playing 9 ball.I am an ardent, fervent believer that luck should not decide the outcome when competing in a game of skill.
Pool games that reward slop letting you stay in control of the table & keep playing are not my favorite games.
14.1 and 10 ball are the games I prefer playing and I like 10 played without BIH fouls played behind the line.
It is the fairest test of skills and without BIH fouls, the game changes a lot and it becomes more challenging.
I'll stir up conversation and state that once you reach a higher level of play and table IQ, 8 ball becomes more difficult. There's way more to pool then run out %
Once you reach a point wherein you can pot the vast majority of shots and also control the CB, 9 ball is paint by numbers. Strategy and moves in 8 ball is vastly superior.
I simply stopped believing in 'luck'. 'Luck' is a potential reward for those with a certain style of play. Nothing more, nothing else. That doesn't mean I enjoy losing a game/match to what could be coined as a lucky roll. Just that I understand that the product of luck is inherent to weak play, so I would rather have someone swinging recklessly when attempting to best me.
I've never understood why some prefer 'behind the line' fouls. So easy to manlipulate the game in your favour as the person committing the foul, especially in rotation games.
What no one has mentioned is that, in my opinion, using a template for 8-ball can completely change the game. It leads to much better ball spreads on the breaks and makes it a much more offensive game in which runouts are far more likely.Reading this thread reminds me of something an old man told me decades ago.
He said, on the averages when you play 9 ball after every shot it gets easier. In 8 ball it gets harder.
It's pretty simple
What do you mean by template?What no one has mentioned is that, in my opinion, using a template for 8-ball can completely change the game. It leads to much better ball spreads on the breaks and makes it a much more offensive game in which runouts are far more likely.
Oh it most certanly does. Slug racks in 8 ball are the worst. While using a template greatly increases the likelyhood of both a successful break and runout. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a certainty. No where near the automatic nature of a rack of 9 ball.What no one has mentioned is that, in my opinion, using a template for 8-ball can completely change the game. It leads to much better ball spreads on the breaks and makes it a much more offensive game in which runouts are far more likely.
9 ball patterns. 8 ball shape.
What no one has mentioned is that, in my opinion, using a template for 8-ball can completely change the game. It leads to much better ball spreads on the breaks and makes it a much more offensive game in which runouts are far more likely.
I am not so sure about that. I lose way more matches in 9 ball to lesser players than i do 8 ball. Perhaps its because of the scoring points system in apa 9 ball. They tend to go for broke on hard shots and somethimg falls somewhere and more often than not they are good on their next ball.Difficult is hard to judge between two different games because the aspects of them are completely different but let me tell you something.
I find that in 8ball you can lose to a much lesser skilled player. Also I find that in 8ball luck factor is much larger than 9ball and can cause you to lose to a very lesser skilled player.
People think luck is lucking a ball in, but thats not the main factor in pool, layout luck is much more keen to determine the winner of a match, a guy who is really worst in the game than another guy can beat him in 8ball easier than in 9ball.
You can attest to his in the real world, if you're going to play a guy who's much better than you, give 8ball a try and see how you fair...you'll find that more often you'd beat him in 8ball than 9ball.
There are many times in 9B where you have to break out clusters and move balls around to runout. Not every time at the table is a cosmo or just get to the correct side of thr ball looking at the 3rd ball. It’s much more complex.You can't pick a pattern in 9 ball aside from where to get on the ball for shape for the next shot. In 8 ball you need to pick a good order to shoot the balls in, there is a lot more planning to be done in 8 ball to have a good run out or playing for a safe in the rack.
There are many times in 9B where you have to break out clusters and move balls around to runout. Not every time at the table is a cosmo or just get to the correct side of thr ball looking at the 3rd ball. It’s much more complex.
As I stated before there’s a huge overlap and where you are at in your own game often determines which is harder. What only matters is winning. What game do you have the highest win % in. That’s the fame to bet on. I’m not a tourney or league guy. I gamble.