8 Ball Rules Question

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What happens if two of your balls lodge in a corner pocket and neither can be pocketed or removed? Same question if one is solid and one is stripe? Thanks
 
If the balls can't be removed, I would replay the game on another table. :wink:

I think that if the balls would fall if the other wasn't there, they would be considered to be pocketed.
 
What happens if two of your balls lodge in a corner pocket and neither can be pocketed or removed? Same question if one is solid and one is stripe? Thanks
It's rare that neither can be pocketed if you shoot hard enough. But as the other post says, if a ball is hanging over the edge such that its neighbor is keeping it from dropping, the ball is considered pocketed.
 
This happened to me once and the answer I received from AZB was that if the bottom edge of the ball breaks the plane of the slate, the ball is considered pocketed.

Here's a photo I took during the match:

We placed a cue ball next to the pocket just for reference for the photo.
 

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It's rare that neither can be pocketed if you shoot hard enough. But as the other post says, if a ball is hanging over the edge such that its neighbor is keeping it from dropping, the ball is considered pocketed.

Bob,

Do you have this technique illustrated (or on video) anywhere? I find that the two balls wedged in (but yet not overhanging the pocket comes up on the Diamond tables.
 
This happened to me once and the answer I received from AZB was that if the bottom edge of the ball breaks the plane of the slate, the ball is considered pocketed.

Here's a photo I took during the match:

We placed a cue ball next to the pocket just for reference for the photo.

Hey I think I can even make at least one of those! :D
 
They do not look they are wedged or jammed but appears there are balls under them.
 
This happened to me once and the answer I received from AZB was that if the bottom edge of the ball breaks the plane of the slate, the ball is considered pocketed.

Here's a photo I took during the match:

We placed a cue ball next to the pocket just for reference for the photo.


Man, is it just me or is that a messed up pocket.
Looks oblong as well, no matter the camera angle.
 

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Here's a photo I took during the match:

We placed a cue ball next to the pocket just for reference for the phfoto.

This photo isn't looking right.

How are either of those balls staying up bein they are not wedged in there?
 
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Bob,

Do you have this technique illustrated (or on video) anywhere? I find that the two balls wedged in (but yet not overhanging the pocket comes up on the Diamond tables.

If you mean the referee's technique to be used to determine in/out, then no. I think most Diamonds are built such that the balls can't wedge where they would otherwise drop -- they are always on the flat of the bed.
 
If you mean the referee's technique to be used to determine in/out, then no. I think most Diamonds are built such that the balls can't wedge where they would otherwise drop -- they are always on the flat of the bed.



No, I was referring to your comment that it is rare that two balls wedge such that you can't at least make one of the them if you shoot hard enough. My question is how you do that?

My reference to the Diamond was precisely because two balls do wedge in the pocket mouth and NOT overhanging (cleary's recent post in the table recovering thread showing two balls in the jaws of his pocket is a good illustration).
 
No, I was referring to your comment that it is rare that two balls wedge such that you can't at least make one of the them if you shoot hard enough. My question is how you do that?

My reference to the Diamond was precisely because two balls do wedge in the pocket mouth and NOT overhanging (cleary's recent post in the table recovering thread showing two balls in the jaws of his pocket is a good illustration).

Actually, what I meant was that it is probably impossible for two balls to wedge so the position can't be changed by shooting hard enough. I have seen balls wedge where you could hit them pretty hard and they stayed wedged. I don't play on that kind of table any more or at least I haven't see it for 40 years or so.
 
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