8-ball tactic scenario

[rackmsuckr]

I'm just wondering how you got to that starting position in the first place. LOL. Was it like that the whole game and you couldn't get it broken out? Did you hook yourself on the 6 and accidentally kick it there? Did you intentionally play a safe and tie up the 8? Or did your opponent get lucky and put it there? Just wondering why you didn't get out/break out in the first place or why it was left until the end.

I see a lot of BCA players play all the open balls first because their system rewards you for every ball down, so they don't necessarily play the right patterns and try to dig their balls out early. Not saying you're a BCA player, just making a commentary that the league is not always teaching its players the correct way to play, IMHO.

 

[Colin Colenso]

Me too.

Fred

Me three!

But I wouldn't shoot from close as Bruin suggested. It's easy to put some spin on from close and misjudge the carom line. As we usually practice stun shots with the CB some distance away, I feel it will be easier to get the line with some separation b/w CB and OB.

 

[Cornerman]

Me three!

But I wouldn't shoot from close as Bruin suggested. It's easy to put some spin on from close and misjudge the carom line. As we usually practice stun shots with the CB some distance away, I feel it will be easier to get the line with some separation b/w CB and OB.

We should all be experts at this shot. How many times do you have a cut shot like that, and scratch in the corner down the rail LOL!!!.

Fred

 

[chefjeff]

Me three!

But I wouldn't shoot from close as Bruin suggested. It's easy to put some spin on from close and misjudge the carom line. As we usually practice stun shots with the CB some distance away, I feel it will be easier to get the line with some separation b/w CB and OB.

SJM posted, a while back, one of his practice drills which included this shot. Now I know why.

Jeff Livingston

 

[Snapshot9]

I agree

Me three!

But I wouldn't shoot from close as Bruin suggested. It's easy to put some spin on from close and misjudge the carom line. As we usually practice stun shots with the CB some distance away, I feel it will be easier to get the line with some separation b/w CB and OB.

with you, the cue is too close, should be 8-10" away from
the object ball. I would shoot the cue with low left, not right,
and slide the cue towards the 8. I see quite a few who would
use right english, and the cue draws back some and spins past
the 8.

 

[mjantti]

I'm just wondering how you got to that starting position in the first place. LOL. Was it like that the whole game and you couldn't get it broken out? Did you hook yourself on the 6 and accidentally kick it there? Did you intentionally play a safe and tie up the 8? Or did your opponent get lucky and put it there? Just wondering why you didn't get out/break out in the first place or why it was left until the end.

I see a lot of BCA players play all the open balls first because their system rewards you for every ball down, so they don't necessarily play the right patterns and try to dig their balls out early. Not saying you're a BCA player, just making a commentary that the league is not always teaching its players the correct way to play, IMHO.

I have to say that I don't have much recollection how I ended up there. I remember I wasn't missing many shots... I think I might have missed a semidifficult 6-ball and it went 3 rails to hug the 8-ball. I think I had another ball left at the table and I placed it in the jaws of the nearby pocket on my surprise next inning but I was dead straight with it. Well, my opponent comboed it in with his ball and left me that nasty little thing

Ok ok, I admit. I think I missed a ball and it got stuck there. Maybe I was fortuned to tie up the 8-ball.

Btw, I want to ask you a question if you are still reading this lengthy thread: if you are playing on a brand new cloth and with a new 1-2 days old set of balls, do you need time to adapt ? At least I was completely lost with the setup. Getting a chance to play with brand new equipment is very rare for me. That's why those shoot here and break a cluster in the other end of the table don't look very tempting... You should all know if you have played with the "measles" cueball, it really plays a little bit different IMHO. (excuses, excuses )

Just my 2 cents. And thanks for the informative replies again, I learnt something from here today !

 

[Cornerman]

I have to say that I don't have much recollection how I ended up there.

Things happen. If we were never forced to confront these scenarios, this game would be entirely too boring.

Btw, I want to ask you a question if you are still reading this lengthy thread: if you are playing on a brand new cloth and with a new 1-2 days old set of balls, do you need time to adapt ?

Yes of course. I need to adapt to any condition. If I'm fortunate to be still in the tournament near the end, that means I was fortunate enough to survive the adaptation period.

Fred

 

[rackmsuckr]

I have to say that I don't have much recollection how I ended up there. I remember I wasn't missing many shots... I think I might have missed a semidifficult 6-ball and it went 3 rails to hug the 8-ball. I think I had another ball left at the table and I placed it in the jaws of the nearby pocket on my surprise next inning but I was dead straight with it. Well, my opponent comboed it in with his ball and left me that nasty little thing

Ok ok, I admit. I think I missed a ball and it got stuck there. Maybe I was fortuned to tie up the 8-ball.

Btw, I want to ask you a question if you are still reading this lengthy thread: if you are playing on a brand new cloth and with a new 1-2 days old set of balls, do you need time to adapt ? At least I was completely lost with the setup. Getting a chance to play with brand new equipment is very rare for me. That's why those shoot here and break a cluster in the other end of the table don't look very tempting... You should all know if you have played with the "measles" cueball, it really plays a little bit different IMHO. (excuses, excuses )

Just my 2 cents. And thanks for the informative replies again, I learnt something from here today !

OK, thanks for the truthful answer. <grin>. I don't have problems with the new balls, but the cueball might take some getting used to, especially if it is not a red circle or a Centennial. The cloth and the rails take the most adjustment for speed and angle of rebound. One of the first things I will do to test a table is to do a 3-railer and see how long it goes on the new cloth and then I try to adjust from there.

Also on the breakout solution agreed to by many, unless that is a very light cueball (which is easy to inadvertently draw), that is a very good choice, as you are just playing a simple tangent line shot. If you hit it on the right tangent line, it doesn't matter if the cluster is 3" away or 8 feet away, it should make impact.

 

[bruin70]

Me three!

But I wouldn't shoot from close as Bruin suggested. It's easy to put some spin on from close and misjudge the carom line. As we usually practice stun shots with the CB some distance away, I feel it will be easier to get the line with some separation b/w CB and OB.

my shot is not a stun shot. i lined up the cb tangental to the line to the 8 in order to eliminate the need to stun