9 ball is here to stay correct?

westcoast

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Rotation games are terrible to watch via T.V. or streaming even worse in person as nobody can settle on a ball color scheme that anyone can follow especially while drinking. 8 ball on larger table, smaller pockets and slower cloth where you have red/yellow balls set against a high green cloth then pool might be something people will watch. 9 ball is like a 10,000 pound weight around the neck of the game. If nobody has realized this by now then nobody ever will and if the game is still around in 10 years we will still be talking about it wandering why pool can't get out of the gate..
I enjoy watching 9 or 10 ball when the video quality is good and the traditional colors for the calls are used. Otherwise, you are right- it is too confusing- I often can't tell which ball they are setting up for (particularly the strange new colors for the 4 and 5)
 

westcoast

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I still think good old fashioned 8 ball is the best test of a pros skill...pattern play, breaking out clusters, planning runs only to have them change when balls are inadvertently moved around, etc.

Plus it is the most recognized and played billiards game in the world, IMHO.

If only the ipt could have survived...



I also get that I am in the minority with this view
I enjoy watching the pros play bar table 8 ball. Yes, they often get out, but they have to negotiate some challenging break outs and play very good position.

This is my favorite bar table 8 ball match- masterful performance by Deuel.

 

Matt_H

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Rotation games are terrible to watch via T.V. or streaming even worse in person as nobody can settle on a ball color scheme that anyone can follow especially while drinking. 8 ball on larger table, smaller pockets and slower cloth where you have red/yellow balls set against a high green cloth then pool might be something people will watch. 9 ball is like a 10,000 pound weight around the neck of the game. If nobody has realized this by now then nobody ever will and if the game is still around in 10 years we will still be talking about it wandering why pool can't get out of the gate..
I'm sure Darren Appleton played an 8 Ball cash game, a few years back, where a red & yellow ball set were used on a 9 footer. For some reason it's not something that's taken off and I'm not sure why other than for call-shot purposes. However, the market for bespoke NFL, NBA, NCAA etc balls perhaps indicates that not everyone purchases a set of balls for rotation or call-shot games.
 

PoolBoy1

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Nothing is here to stay. We just think we are living in the most exciting times ever. 9 ball as currently played is choking the art of pool. Watch half dozen games and you'd have to rewind to dozing off spot. The game itself plus the most boring humans on earth not earning enough $$ need sponsors. Folks want entertainment. Not masochistic therapy. A League of Earl's would do it overnite.....even 9 ball would survive then....put a table in a home and it comes to life.
 

PoolBoy1

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I enjoy watching the pros play bar table 8 ball. Yes, they often get out, but they have to negotiate some challenging break outs and play very good position.

This is my favorite bar table 8 ball match- masterful performance by Duel.

You may no be in the minority. I'm with your view. Most home tables likely see 8 ball by far I'm willing to bet. Live pool on tv is not given much time so games like 9 ball are called for 1 to 2 minute games. Streaming has opened some doors but ya have to shell out for it. Watching SVB play Orcollo run to 120 in 3 days for $30 would drive me to the bottle. That's where we are at. When I started in 60's pool was all in parlors. 14.1 and 5-9 for gamblers. Yes we made the 5 a $$ ball. Imagine that. Now it's all in Homes and thriving. So pool is in a hard spot. 1 camera, boring walking dead competition, dress code from homeless sales.
 

MitchAlsup

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Nothing is here to stay. We just think we are living in the most exciting times ever. 9 ball as currently played is choking the art of pool. Watch half dozen games and you'd have to rewind to dozing off spot. The game itself plus the most boring humans on earth not earning enough $$ need sponsors. Folks want entertainment. Not masochistic therapy.
This reminds me of a saying I used to utter every once in a while:: "There is not enough oxygen, at sea level, to read patents and stay awake while doing so".
 

Chili Palmer

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Evidently you don't watch or play much one pocket.

As far eight ball being a test of skill and the IPT... In one IPT finals, which might have been a race to 13, it ended hill-hill and in the whole match there was only one rack that went into the second inning. All the other racks were won either from the break or by the other player on his first turn. That is not a test of skill.

I always describe 8B as a shot selection game and 9B as a shot execution game. My mental abilities on the table are much greater than my playing abilities (as I'm sure most are that way), the result is, I'm more favored to run an 8B rack than a 9B rack at any given time.
 
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