I have a quick question for everyone. Let's say I'm playing 9-ball against someone and I'm shooting at the 3-ball. I hit the 3-ball cleanly, but the only ball that goes in is the 9-ball. I know the 9 gets respotted because I didn't call it, but is it still my turn or is my opponent's? I know if any other ball was sunk after I hit the 3, I would still be at the table, so I wanted to check. Thanks for any help.
9-Ball Question
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Fred Agnir
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Pjadedd said:
By current 9-ball rules, you win. Game over. No respotting.
By ESPN 9-ball rules, past precendence has been that if the only ball that drops is an accidental 9-ball, then it respots and the *opponent* shoots.
IMO, you should be playing by WPA/BCA 9-ball rules, not by ESPN mongrel rules.
Fred
Pjadedd said:
Nine-ball IS NOT a call-shot game and that includes the nine-ball. In your scenario, you win. There have been some tournaments where they've tried to implement a call-shot rule but that isn't official so I don't know what the rule would be if you were to play that way. If you were to play that way, I would think the shooter would continue shooting.
Jude M. Rosenstock
Fred Agnir said:
Is that the case? That's just ridiculous! So basically, they're playing a game that even the most avid followers don't play! Nice! They should just play call-shot eight-ball and really satisfy the yearning of the masses.
Jude M. Rosenstock
Wild Eight
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The excuse is call shot eight ball is to slow, and thus to boring to put on T.V. I think the producers have missed the whole meaning of pool.
Wild Eight said:
Okay seriously, although I'm not a big fan of eight-ball, it is the game of the masses. On a 7' table, it can be a slow game simply because the environment demands extra attention to defense but on a 9' table, I'd imagine there'd be a ton of break-n-runs.
Jude M. Rosenstock
Well, that just happened to Jennifer Barretta. She hit the 1-ball, which was next to the 9. The commentators thought the 9 could go in the corner, but Jenn hit it into the side pocket, thus winning the game. She didn't have to call it. When on TV do they have to call the 9-ball? I know they have to always call it during the Tournament of Champions, but don't they mention calling the 9-ball when you bank it or something? Sorry for all the questions.
Pjadedd said:
It's tournament specific. Some tournaments decide they want them to call the 9-ball, most do not.
They should clarify that on TV. I know they do during the Challenge of Champions (I remember specifically them saying Jeanette Lee almost forgot to call a 9-ball). But, if different tournaments are going to have different rules, then they should just mention them when they go through the basic rules at the beginning.
1pRoscoe said:
I'm not surprised. It's all in the break. No big problems and any decent player is out. In terms of competition, the great risk is making a ball on the break but that's not a viewer's concern.
Jude M. Rosenstock
If I missed the answer to my original question earlier, I just got it answered again. That was a tough way for Jenn Barretta to go down to Julie Kelly. For anyone that missed it, Julie was on the hill at 6-5, went for the 1-ball at one end of the table. She it the 1, missed the pocket, but the ball bounced around the table and hit the 9 in. I guess it's obvious you didn't have to call the 9-ball there.
Pjadedd said:
the only time i've seen called 9 ball is the challenge of champions. i watched efren forget to call a 9 ball and it was respotted for his opponent. also i'm not sure the rules you'll have to ask him, but grady has his "grady's rules" 9 ball which sound like you call your shots.
thanks
Yeah, I've seen tournaments where the 9-ball had to be called if it was in a combination or a bank. I remember a few years ago during the Ultimate 9-ball Challenge (I miss that event), Max Eberle made a 9-ball on a tough combination, but forgot to call it, so it was respotted. I guess that was an old rule or one not used as much anymore.
Earl beat Harriman, I believe, at Grand Central that way, hill hill. He kicked at the ball 1 rail and lucked the 9 in the corner. Some tournaments are call 9, some aren't. No big deal, unless you're Harriman in that case. I play a weekly tourney that's call the 9 and if the 9 only goes in on a good hit, then it spots and it's the opponents turn. Funny thing is, most players in the tourney get mixed up and when it happens, they think it's ball in hand for some reason, pick the CB up and then they give ball in hand back to the player that lucked the 9 in. LOL. Peace.
All of the major cue sports including nine ball,8 ball and snooker do not use call shots.(International Challenge of Champions being one of only a few exceptions) I think one THE MAIN REASON this is so to avoid controversial call shot situations that arise in the game. It completley cuts down potential arguments.
Someone lines up a three ball combination, kiss off the next two balls off the rail to the corner.He then shoots it at top speed. Imagine the arguments that would arise if one player saw it one way and the other player saw it another way. I could see Earl strickland blowing a gasket in a call shot game. Although flukes can be unfortunate, the rolls generally equal out and it's much better to have them than a whole lot of problems. RJ
Someone lines up a three ball combination, kiss off the next two balls off the rail to the corner.He then shoots it at top speed. Imagine the arguments that would arise if one player saw it one way and the other player saw it another way. I could see Earl strickland blowing a gasket in a call shot game. Although flukes can be unfortunate, the rolls generally equal out and it's much better to have them than a whole lot of problems. RJ