9 Ball the movie

I ordered it last week. I haven't heard rave reviews about it but at least it' a pool movie. Remember what the Hustler did for pool? And then the Color of Money? We need a new, well produced/directed movie with well-known actors. Something like that may put pool back on the rebound. I'm not saying that this movie won't help, however the chances of it becoming widespread going straight to DVD make the odds pretty long that it will generate any kind of resurgence in pool.

I do agree, however, that we should support this movie as much as we can. There is a slim chance that it could send a message to the Hollywood Executives that this kind of thing could make money. After all, all it costs is a couple of hours of the time. Someone is going to be watching how many copies of this DVD sells and what people say about it on the Internet. If the feedback is positive enough and sales are strong enough, then possibly somebody might consider writing a screenplay to follow up the Hustler/TCOM series. Who wouldn't like to see the aging Vincent bringing a new young player into the game.

Bob

I think you overestimate the importance of pool in The Hustler and TCOM. I was a teenager when TCOM came out and can say first-hand, people went to see that movie for plenty of reasons and none of those reasons had to do with an interest in pool.

With that said, once people left the theaters, everyone either wanted to be Tom Cruise or sleep with him so they all went right to the poolroom. I don't think you can successfully recreate that reaction in movies easily. Movies are different now. The way audiences respond to movies is different. Back in 1987, it felt as though every movie was watched by young and old. When I was a kid, I saw movies like "On Golden Pond" and "When Harry Met Sally". There was far less available content so you watched what was on TV or you watched what was rented. The audience was acclimated to watching movies that weren't fantasy, that required character building and endured lulls in the action.

Now, there feels like there's a distinct intent to market to young OR old audiences. Movies are action-packed with tons of special effects and fantasy is commonplace. If not, it's uber-serious, almost a documentary on its subject. I worry that a movie about pool would either hit both markets OR fall between the cracks. Young people would find it too dull and old people will find it irrelevant.

My girlfriend is a bit of a movie-buff and has introduced me to a great deal of classics. It's a lot of fun but because I'm so accustomed to modern movie standards, it's always a struggle for her to get me to watch Casablanca or A White Christmas. I feel it's a chore getting through the opening scenes. I don't know how a pool movie won't feel like a chore to the non-playing audience without it being some sort of subplot. I'm sorry but in my opinion, the only way we'll ever see pool in the movies now is if the movie isn't about pool which, truth be told, what Walter Tevis always claimed about The Hustler - it was never meant to be a story about pool.
 
The trailer reminds me of a Skinemax movie lol.
Hope its better than "Turn the River" starring Dr Jean Grey. Acting not so bad, but the playing scenes are awful. Low production value there. Can't believe it got a 6.0 on IMDB.

Let us know your thoughts about "9-Ball". Curious about this one. I will probably bust out and get it anyway :)

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The trailer reminds me of a Skinemax movie lol.
Hope its better than "Turn the River" starring Dr Jean Grey. Acting not so bad, but the playing scenes are awful. Low production value there. Can't believe it got a 6.0 on IMDB.

Let us know your thoughts about "9-Ball". Curious about this one. I will probably bust out and get it anyway :)

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I actually auditioned for a part in this movie and was scheduled to be in it until the final days before production began. I was there when Famke Janssen was learning how to play pool. She really put in a great deal of time for a movie she knew wasn't exactly going to be "theater near you" status and the actor that nearly got me the role, John Juback (aka "J.J.") did his very best to incorporate as much into the pool scenes as he possibly could. It's really hard to produce something that would satisfy the pool world when so many others are involved in the production of a movie that have no interest in pool. What's more, when you're working with a limited budget, there's this odd balance between keeping shot sequences intact versus keeping well recited dialog intact. Sometimes the scale tips the way you'd like and sometimes not.

With all that said, I wished for more too. I think the talent was there to bring something much better than they did but the money simply wouldn't have supported it.
 
I actually auditioned for a part in this movie and was scheduled to be in it until the final days before production began. I was there when Famke Janssen was learning how to play pool. She really put in a great deal of time for a movie she knew wasn't exactly going to be "theater near you" status and the actor that nearly got me the role, John Juback (aka "J.J.") did his very best to incorporate as much into the pool scenes as he possibly could. It's really hard to produce something that would satisfy the pool world when so many others are involved in the production of a movie that have no interest in pool. What's more, when you're working with a limited budget, there's this odd balance between keeping shot sequences intact versus keeping well recited dialog intact. Sometimes the scale tips the way you'd like and sometimes not.

With all that said, I wished for more too. I think the talent was there to bring something much better than they did but the money simply wouldn't have supported it.

Dont get me wrong. "River" was mostly watchable, just kind of missing something I can't explain during the playing scenes. Also, Rip Torn was a surprise. Wasn't expecting to see him pop up! Kind of like the 1st time seeing Rick(y) Schroeder playing the pro tour shark in "Junkies" lmao

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Dont get me wrong. "River" was mostly watchable, just kind of missing something I can't explain during the playing scenes. Also, Rip Torn was a surprise. Wasn't expecting to see him pop up! Kind of like the 1st time seeing Rick(y) Schroeder playing the pro tour shark in "Junkies" lmao

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I thought it was a fairly good movie actually. Interesting for reasons other than pool, but man the ending was terrible.
 
I thought it was a fairly good movie actually. Interesting for reasons other than pool, but man the ending was terrible.

Agreed about the ending.
Also, the $10k per game scene towards the end didn't have much buildup. Was kind of like "Now $10,000 a game, but in 9-ball instead." And she said something like, "OK, sure" or whatever, very nonchalantly. It should have really emphasized how big that is by letting her play it cool, but showing the crowd 'ooh-ing' and murmuring, or something :)

(lol like I'm some great film critic or awesome director that could make 1/2 a movie. Ha!)

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Dont get me wrong. "River" was mostly watchable, just kind of missing something I can't explain during the playing scenes. Also, Rip Torn was a surprise. Wasn't expecting to see him pop up! Kind of like the 1st time seeing Rick(y) Schroeder playing the pro tour shark in "Junkies" lmao

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I guess, all I'm saying is, TONS of movies are made every year. For me, I'm just a guy who sits back and waits for movies to be released in the nearby theaters or available for home viewing and without thinking, I only watch bigger productions. I don't go to the TriBeCa Film Festival. I don't find myself strolling into Angelica Film Center. I don't watch Independent films ever. I think most people are like me.

I'm aware that these "other movies" exist and occasionally watch them, but usually just when they're about pool. Because of that, they appear as rough around the edges but the truth is, these productions never had a chance of rivaling The Hustler or TCOM and most people involved in the project are aware of that but we, as consumers, sit here hoping that it's the next great installment so we end up disappointed.

We simply don't know movies well enough to pass judgement on anything that isn't done with an 8 figure budget. With that said, I'm glad that we have access to these Independent films and especially glad that these movies are evidence that pool maintains great allies in Hollywood.
 
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