A 9 ball cut break question

[Snapshot9]

Cut break

is not as easy as it looks because it depends:

1) Where the cue ball is placed in the kitchen.
2) Angle the 1 ball is hit.
3) English on the cue ball.
4) Speed of the cue ball.

All of the above are interrelated to the other 3. If you change 1 of them, the other 3 change also.

For example, cut breaking from the right side (not on the long rail, but just on the right side), you do not hit the 1 ball full, you hit it at about a 30 degree angle (have to feel out speed), with low right english. You see, it is really a carom shot that caroms off of the 3 ball (ball racked in the 3 position). Inside english in lieu of outside english will cause the 1 to come further back past the side pocket. It caroms more consistently with outside english than inside english.

1 and 3 are not too hard to find for the cut break. It is 2 and 4 that is the majority of the work involved, but when you do find them, the 1 will go a great deal of the time. For example, Alcano in the WPC finals.

 

[sooperstroke]

did you take into consideration that the wpba racks the 9 on the spot which moves the 1 about 6" further up the table which could account for alison's more frequent pocketing of the 1 ball?

Yes I did. racking the 9 on the spot would make it harder on me, not easier. Wish it was just that though

When the 1 ball is on the spot, I can make the 1 pretty regularly (When I'm trying too). I use the side break and I aim to hit the 1 straight at the 1st diamond on the end rail (if the rack wasn't there of course). I use a touch of low-outside to control whitey.

This technique works on all kinds of tables. You just have to make an adjustment this way or that to get your stroke down. (Amount of deflection is different for all)

Ok. then its just me. I wasnt sure if it was me or if i was trying to do the impossible. Ill try the touch of low outside also. thanks

Tony he asked about the cut break not breaking from the side. If you want to cut the balls. Hit the one ball in the same spot you would aim as if breaking from the side with a little low outside english. Hit it about 70% power and watch the wing ball and most likely the one go in. If you are racking your own and know a few things it's like stealing.

Your the second one to recomend low outside. Im gonna start working on it first thing in the morn

is not as easy as it looks because it depends:

1) Where the cue ball is placed in the kitchen.
2) Angle the 1 ball is hit.
3) English on the cue ball.
4) Speed of the cue ball.

All of the above are interrelated to the other 3. If you change 1 of them, the other 3 change also.

For example, cut breaking from the right side (not on the long rail, but just on the right side), you do not hit the 1 ball full, you hit it at about a 30 degree angle (have to feel out speed), with low right english. You see, it is really a carom shot that caroms off of the 3 ball (ball racked in the 3 position). Inside english in lieu of outside english will cause the 1 to come further back past the side pocket. It caroms more consistently with outside english than inside english.

1 and 3 are not too hard to find for the cut break. It is 2 and 4 that is the majority of the work involved, but when you do find them, the 1 will go a great deal of the time. For example, Alcano in the WPC finals.

I never thought of it as a carom but I can see how that works. I also have a hard time hitting the balls at less then 100%. Years and years of putting my all into the rack make it hard to change. Ill try to focus on lightening up on the break




Thanks for all the replys yall. Ill let you know if i ever figure this thing out.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

I know what he asked, and I gave him my answer.

I still believe that he is better off working on the break I suggested.

IMHO the cut break is too difficult to control, and it's effectiveness depends heavily on the condition of the rack. As you already said, if you rack your own it's stealing.

Since the cutbreak was first used to develop an angle that did not exist (when breaking from the box). How many places with the OP play that don't allow breaking from the side rail? The US Open is one of the few that I know that requires you to break from the box, and not slow break either.

The only time I would consider using a cut break is if I am playing in the US Open (which won't happen in my lifetime)

Tony he asked about the cut break not breaking from the side. If you want to cut the balls. Hit the one ball in the same spot you would aim as if breaking from the side with a little low outside english. Hit it about 70% power and watch the wing ball and most likely the one go in. If you are racking your own and know a few things it's like stealing.

 

[TKS PIZZA]

cut break

just pay larry nevel to break for you. problem solved.