A decent player, and his first custom

powerlineman80

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Ok some might think this is a repeat of my thread for J&D Customs (Jim Lee) but I'm going to post everything I've thought about before I picked him, whats going on when we were designing the cue, and what goes on during updates to me etc. Here goes and I'll edit in this post as time goes along. Take in mind I've never had a custom built for me, much less design my own and have someone build it for me (all handmade, no CNC). I was leary at first because I dont know all the terminology of the parts of a cue, etc. and he never made me feel dumb and he even drew a cue up and pointed to what was what to help me out. He made me go from being too nervous to build one (I almost pulled the trigger on a Judd JT-1, but I wasnt sure of what I wanted) to feeling confident this will be one badass cue.

1/16/2008 at 12:07 AM: I reply to a post that J&D Customs posted about selling one of his Kingwood Cues. He didnt post any specs or a price so I replied to his thread saying I was in the looking for a custom cue and that he should post his prices and specs, etc. He replies in a pm very shortly thereafter and asks what I'm looking for. I dont know everything I need but I know I want something with a 3/8x10 pin (I've shot with a few and loved the stiffness) but other than that I really didnt know what I wanted. I told him I was waiting on a price from two other cuemakers before I decided who I would go with. He said that was cool and to let him know if I needed any help from him no matter if I bought from him or not. After getting emails from the other two cuemakers I decided they were out of my pricerange for what I wanted so I pm'd Jim back and said lets talk. We talked basics and he even drew up some ideas, and I told him I'd let him know when I found something I really wanted and we'd start the build.

1/17/2008 11:28 PM: I found a cue on the internet that I based my design on and drew it up with the colors I wanted in the cue and sent it to Jim. He said he could do it and actually wanted to build it because he thought it looked very traditional but had colors in it that are not seen in an everday cue on here. After I got the word that he could build what I wanted in the colors I wanted I told him I was going with him and that I would be sending my $200 deposit that night to get started. He said there are about 5 cues ahead of me (including the ones for TATE to review on the site) and it could be anywhere from 3-5 months depending on the repair work that comes in, etc. and I said I'm more than happy about that. I give him my phone number and he calls me right away and we talk for about 3 hours (take in mind its about midnight when he first called, I asked him to) and we talk about 10 minutes about the cue and another 2 hours and 50 minutes about life and family. I thought that was pretty cool. I felt like I knew him my whole life right after that. We finalized the plans and sent the payment while we talked. Game is on now.

1/18/2008 Around Midnightish: Me and Jim trade a few pm's just shooting the bull. He says he gets in the veneers and has 3 different shades of the color I asked for. He laid them out by my forearm and sent me pics asking which exact color I wanted so there was no confusion or if they were all wrong. I picked the one I wanted (which was dead on) and he then puts it against the color of the point to show me what it would look like. I approve so we now know the colors for the veneers, rings, etc. So now I ALREADY have pics of my beautiful forearm laid down behind some colors for the veneers and points.

2/3/2008 11:00 PM: We trade many pm's from the 18th to now just shooting the bull as usual. After asking him to post pics of the test cue for TATE he tells me my cue might be done ahead of time. Of course I'm giddy but I know its still awhile away. Things are still good and Jim says everything should turn out ok.

2/9/2008 1:00 AM: We trade pm's again shooting the bull and Jim imformed me that he already has everything in house and ready to go and I'm about 5th in line (of course not counting any repair work, etc. that comes in). All the veneers are glued, and the shafts are turning. Things are starting to look up!



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More to come as things come along. Hopefully this will help someone that was nervous like me in contacting a cuemaker and wanting their own cue instead of just what the cuemaker puts out and thats all you get. You get a TRUE custom that way.
 
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I get just as excited about my cues. The anticipation can be brutal though. Could you describe the cue or post pics pls. Congrats
 
Its a very traditional cue with ebony and columbia blue in it. I have no pics yet as he hasnt been able to do much work on it yet but will as time goes along.
 
Jim is a great guy

Yes, Jim is a great guy to deal with. I have a pink ivory and bacote 6 pointer headed my way in the next week or so. Finishing touches are being done as I type this. I had posted this weekend that I was looking for a $600 cue, and Jim reminded me that he could build a cue by my design. Jim actually had me thinking about something I never thought about before - DESIGN a cue in the style I WANT!!! So I had to think about it for all of 10 minutes and came up with a design and look that I will be happy to have in my collection. Let's call it the Mardi Gras/New Orleans wrapless full-splice cue. I will start a thread and post pics when it gets going, but I am excited, and can't wait to get it started. Like a kid in a candy store.

With all of the cuemakers and cues available here on AZB, sometimes you lose out on ideas that could benefit you. Jim was a great big help, and I am looking forward to seeing my cues from him.


But keep this on the down low about his great service and abilities, otherwise his wait time will grow, and I want to get a few more from him in the near future, and I like the future that only lasts 6 months. SHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!


Michael
 
LOL
Sounds like you guys have found a good cuemaker that cares about good customer relations-
You gotta stick by those!
Looking forward to some pics
 
Cuephoric said:
LOL
Sounds like you guys have found a good cuemaker that cares about good customer relations-
You gotta stick by those!
Looking forward to some pics


He actually seems like he genuinely (sp?) cares about what you want when wanting a cue from him. He just doesnt push what he has or what he can build to sell you. He doesnt say its this cue or no cue at all. He seems like he wants a challenge and is willing to take on anything IMO. I'll wait for the final product to come in and let you guys see it before I post a price. I searched all his threads before committing to him and looked at his cues he built, and all looked very clean and I even pm'd most of the people that bought cues from him and they all said his cues were jam up and they were buying more from him (that was enough for me).

Here is one pic that I've gotten so far. Its the forearm (birdseye) and the 3 different colors he got for me to choose from. I picked the one on the far right (my favorite b'ball team North Carolina has this color) which is my favorite color. Will be alot of ebony and this blue.
 

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Here is my cue - on its way soon!!

Well , I don't want to Hijack your thread :D , but wanted to show a picture of one of the cues that Jim/J&D custom is making for me. It is getting a wrap this week, and should hopefully be in my hands very soon. It is a beautiful 6 point bacote in pink ivory forearm, with a bacote butt sleeve.

I also have another cue in the works from Jim. Great guy to work with, and you will love your cue when it is done. I will start a post with my new pink ivory cue when it arrives. Just wanted to show the almost finished work of Jim, so that you can get even more excited about yours. Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

Michael

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I have an update from this weekend and added it to my post. I have even tweaked a few changes, and asked Jim about a few ideas I had on 'personalizing' my cue. He even gave me a few ideas that I liked well and will probably go with. Has still been a PLEASURE to work with so far like everyone else has said. Even after making a few changes the past two weekends he hasnt griped one bit:D
 
JohnPT said:
I get just as excited about my cues. The anticipation can be brutal though. Could you describe the cue or post pics pls. Congrats

Here was a rough sketch I drew up for Jim. Take in mind I dont know alot of termonology of cues and of course he even helped me with that. There have been a few changes since this drawing but it will give you a general idea of what I'm getting. I'd love to hear everyones thoughts!

I forgot to write down that the forearm will be birdseye maple.
 

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Cue looks nice

Like the cue and colors. Great idea, and now you got me thinking of my next cue design.

Sent a PM.

Michael
 
GoTulane said:
Like the cue and colors. Great idea, and now you got me thinking of my next cue design.

Sent a PM.

Michael

Thanks, that color blue is my favorite color and I thought it would look good against that ebony and birdseye. The ebony Jim showed me was super dark so I think it will make the blue stand out even more, or atleast I hope so:D I cant wait!
 
I'd like to offer my suggestions. 4 veneers, no ring above the wrap, a long white buttcap and only 2 instead of 4 dots along the vertical in the buttsleeve. Don't ask me why because I don't know. Just a matter of taste I guess.
 
JohnPT said:
I'd like to offer my suggestions. 4 veneers, no ring above the wrap, a long white buttcap and only 2 instead of 4 dots along the vertical in the buttsleeve. Don't ask me why because I don't know. Just a matter of taste I guess.


I'm not a huge fan of alot of veneers. I like the ring above the wrap, and I cant stand a white buttcap. I settled on a dot on each point of the diamond on the buttsleeve and stayed with one on top and bottom of the diamond on the points. Like you said, its all in a matter of taste. Thanks for the suggestions though!:cool:

I think I seen an Ed Prewitt like you just mentioned (or close anyways) and it looked very good. For some reason I just dont like the buttcaps being white.
 
Your welcome. Most everyone's tastes in cues change as will yours. You'll be back in the market sooner or later :). My first custom is a Scruggs and I thought I'd never want another cue. I have shot with about a dozen other cues and at present settled with another Scruggs. I think I'll be sticking with this one and have never felt as secure with a cue. But whatever you do don't sell your very first custom made cue. Mine feels very distinct and I get a pleasure from taking her out from time to time.
 
Just wanted to bump it to the top for the players just getting their cues on here. Michael I'd love to hear your story on how your cue shoots.

BTW-I still talk to Jim atleast once a week (generally a day) and he has kept me updated on progress. No new pics to report yet but as I get them I'll post them.
 
Josh,Michael,

These comments and support is why I build cues. It really makes my day to hear from folks I have or will make happy.
You guys have been great to work with and design with. I like the fact that I did not design these cues, you guys did.
I am working on finishing the cues I have for customers , and then concentrating on your cues. I am making the ringwork now, and getting ready to shoot some pics for you both. I too can't wait to see em put together and come to life.
Once again, Thanx to you both for all your words of kindness and support.
Jim Lee
 
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