One of the best posts I've seen in a long time! Good job.
A Fun CHALLENGE DRILL to Test Your DRAW QUALITY … and SOFT VS. HARD TIP Comparison
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One of the best posts I've seen in a long time! Good job.
Anybody else try the simple drill yet? I am curious to hear how high the OB can go (or not go) on a Diamond table with bouncy rails and fast cloth. Can you make it work with the OB above the foot line?
Relax...Dr Dave has a professional style...if you can't stay awake take some No-Doze...if that doesn't work, take some ExLax.
Phenolic tips are not forgiving at all. I can draw a cueball for days with no miscue. If I try the same with my breaker I can't get as low on the cueball with out inducing a miscue. That's why it's a break tip.
All this stuff doesn't matter tho play with what gives you the most confidence. Hard soft... layered... lepro triangle whatever.
If I grab a Bar cue with a slip on ferrule and a shit tip I can't execute the shots I can with my normal player...some shots I won't even attempt. Because I don't have confidence in the bar cue. Confidence is a huge factor. Way more of a factor than tip hardness effecting spin.. (I love a good bar cue....a bad one not so much..)
All this stuff doesn't matter tho play with what gives you the most confidence. Hard soft... layered... lepro triangle whatever.
If I grab a Bar cue with a slip on ferrule and a shit tip I can't execute the shots I can with my normal player...some shots I won't even attempt. Because I don't have confidence in the bar cue. Confidence is a huge factor. Way more of a factor than tip hardness effecting spin.. (I love a good bar cue....a bad one not so much..)
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Have you tested it to be sure - using a marked CB and checking chalk marks to compare?
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Yea absolutely can't put the same stroke on the ball. I'm sure I could do it....but why go throu the trouble of figuring the stroke and tip placement limit out. . Different setups play and feel different its not rocket science.
A big reason I like softer tips is not purely for the mechanical benefits, but for feel. Whenever I hit with a harder tip I feel like it's about to slide off the cueball on spin shots or on drag type shots (soft spin over distance). Like playing with a clicking ferrule or tip. It just sounds wrong, so it feels wrong. Similar to how smell affects taste, I think the sound of the shot, even though it's after the hit, affects how one will stroke the cue, if you hit it and it feels odd, your next stoke may be off due to that as you try to baby it more, or hit it more center.
I would like to see the same test I did for checking spin results with tips and shafts that I did with my friend, shooting a low right spin shot from by the 2nd diamond, with the cueball at about a 45" angle, and seeing how near the opposite corner pocket the cueball lands. When we did this test with both of us taking 5 shots with each type of shaft and tip design, the best spin action we got was from a LD shaft with a layered tip, the worst one was with a normal shaft and a one-piece tip (landing higher up the rail). The only time we got to the pocket, and a few times past it on the short rail was with an LD shaft and layered tip. Every other combination landed several inches short on the long rail at best. and hear the first diamond or 1.5 diamonds at worst.
I would like to see the same test I did for checking spin results with tips and shafts that I did with my friend, shooting a low right spin shot from by the 2nd diamond, with the cueball at about a 45" angle, and seeing how near the opposite corner pocket the cueball lands. When we did this test with both of us taking 5 shots with each type of shaft and tip design, the best spin action we got was from a LD shaft with a layered tip, the worst one was with a normal shaft and a one-piece tip (landing higher up the rail). The only time we got to the pocket, and a few times past it on the short rail was with an LD shaft and layered tip. Every other combination landed several inches short on the long rail at best. and hear the first diamond or 1.5 diamonds at worst.
Ps doctor dave already did all the work for me and even said he can't get as low on the cueball.
... but I got pretty damn close. And the phenolic hybrid tip I tested is much harder than typical hard playing-cue tips. Here's the pertinent "NOTE" from the video description:
This drill showed that a soft tip on a playing cue can generate just slightly more backspin than a really hard phenolic hybrid tip on a break cue, but the differences among playing tips over a typical range of hardness would probably be too small to measure.