A little advice

Cheez Dawg

Cheez Dawg

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Long story short, a friend of mine accidentally had his joint protector pin break off in the threads of his shaft. It is not a metal pin on the protector, and it is an oddball thread on a Scorpion break cue.
What would the easiest way to get the broken part out of the threads on the shaft be, so he can actually put the cue together to break with?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
 
use a small drill bit and an automotive type eze-out. they are left hand threaded and are used to remove broken studs in the automotive world.

just a thought..................j
 
Jack Flanagan said:
use a small drill bit and an automotive type eze-out. they are left hand threaded and are used to remove broken studs in the automotive world.

just a thought..................j
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I agree, just use the smallest one that will not touch the sides of the insert. You don't want to damage the threads.
Good luck,
Dave
 
Cheez Dawg said:
Long story short, a friend of mine accidentally had his joint protector pin break off in the threads of his shaft. It is not a metal pin on the protector, and it is an oddball thread on a Scorpion break cue.
What would the easiest way to get the broken part out of the threads on the shaft be, so he can actually put the cue together to break with?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Is the pin plastic?

I'm guessing if you had the equipment to do the drill
and eze-out, as others have suggested, you wouldn't need to
ask for help.

You could try super glue and a finishing nail. If material is soft,
Gently tap point in till it bites, then wiggle out, fill hole with super glue,
then unscrew.

If pounding nail isn't possible, just put a glob of super glue gel
on head end of nail, press to end of pin till it sets up<30 secs>
unscrew.

Dale<McGyvering his way thru life>
 
pdcue said:
Is the pin plastic?

I'm guessing if you had the equipment to do the drill
and eze-out, as others have suggested, you wouldn't need to
ask for help.

You could try super glue and a finishing nail. If material is soft,
Gently tap point in till it bites, then wiggle out, fill hole with super glue,
then unscrew.

If pounding nail isn't possible, just put a glob of super glue gel
on head end of nail, press to end of pin till it sets up<30 secs>
unscrew.

Dale<McGyvering his way thru life>
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This is what I was thinking also.

I have an extra set of those myself, so If it's the stock scorpion caps, then the pin is probably some sort of plastic, and A easy out could be used, but If not on hand, I would probably drill a small hole and glue a metal pin (finish nail as mentioned) of some sort in it. That way you could get a grip on It, and if not enough, you could get a grip on the nail with a pair of vice grips or something to unscrew it from the insert. One thing you want to be carefull of though, is not to end up glueing the joint cap pin into the insert By accident. You would have to be really carefull with the amount of glue used.

Greg
 
No offense guys, but I'd be hesitant about getting superglue in my joint threads, and making a bad situation worse. And hammering a nail into the pin may expand it enough to tighten it up. I work on classic cars, so broken bolts are a way of life. If you have access to a reversible drill motor, you can buy a left hand drill bit at a good auto parts store, a tool supplier or maybe even Sears. Once the bit bites into the pin it will probably spin out without an extractor. Another process you could try will only work if the pin is plastic; Take a small slotted screwdriver no wider than 1/8 to 3/16 inch. Heat it on the stove or with a torch and press it lightly into the plastic pin. Cool it with a little water spray, then try to wind it out. Even if it doesn't stick in the pin, the slot you melted into the pin may be enough to get a grip with the screwdriver and wind it out. Just go slow and careful whatever route you take. Hope this helps.

Bill
 
Thanks for the replies and suggestions. I was thinking along the same lines. I just wanted to see if anyone had a different perspective on the situation.
I'll give it a go tomorrow.
Keep your fingers crossed!!!:D :D
 
Usually most one piece cue caps are made of delrin, or another very durable plastic. For one to break off may mean either a crossthread, or bad threads, or not delrin. The first 2 will be a problem, the third should be solved with the suggestions, providing no other issues like jammed threads, etc. I really think the easyouts will be the solution.
Good luck,
Dave
 
Sometimes they are in there very loose, and can simply be backed out by holding pressure against the top with something while trying to back it out. I have a scorpion here, and the joint cap on the shaft fits the threads loose enough that it seems like it would screw out easily. Just remember if you do use glue in any way, not to use much at all or granted you will have problems if it gets in the threads. better to use that as a last resort possibly, especially if unsure.

BTW curious if the cap was cross threaded, because they seem to fit pretty loose, just wondering how it broke off? That could make a difference in how hard it will be to get out. Does the shaft have a black insert in it, if so that looks like some type of plastic also on the one I have here, so although melting something like a screwdriver into it is a good option normally too, I would be carefull with any heat close around the outsides of it just in case, I've done that one also, but it was with a brass insert. I wouldn't try it without using a really small screwdriver, and would have to make sure not to slip and touch the sides of the insert or that may get melted too. The safest bet is probably the left handed bit, or an extractor If it has the black insert in the shaft. I don't know how small you can get them, the extractor I have fits inserts for removing those if i wanted, but It's too large to fit the pin inside one like yours without damaging the insert. I'm sure you can get them smaller, but the place I got mine from only had a couple of sizes. When I bought it originally, was when I needed to back some broken bolts out of the core support of My truck, and It just happened to fit shaft inserts also.:) Good Luck with it,

Greg
 
Got it out. All I did was take a finishing nail, and I was able to back it out just by turning it counter clockwise.
Thanks for all the advice. Much appreciated!
 
congrats dawg. I knew you would get it out. The finishing nail trick did the job. Good luck with the cue work.

regards,
 
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