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I?ve been using the BreakRAK about 2 or 3 times a week
for about 3 months. I?ve used it about 20 minutes at a time,
since I purchased it. It has done wonders for my break shot
and for several of my students. Everybody that?s seen it has
been impressed. The only negative comment I've heard is
about the price. BUT when I tell them about the guarantee,
and show them how much they can learn about their break
from using it for just a few minutes, they agree that it's worth
every penny.
 
SeaShooter said:
I?ve been using the BreakRAK about 2 or 3 times a week
for about 3 months. I?ve used it about 20 minutes at a time,
since I purchased it. It has done wonders for my break shot
and for several of my students. Everybody that?s seen it has
been impressed. The only negative comment I've heard is
about the price. BUT when I tell them about the guarantee,
and show them how much they can learn about their break
from using it for just a few minutes, they agree that it's worth
every penny.
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Thanks very much for your testimony... I appreciate your kind words & I'm glad you are doing that well.

Fast Larry also has a thread on the BreakRAK....

I can only wish that everybody would wake up today?
 
BreakRAK

SeaShooter said:
I?ve been using the BreakRAK about 2 or 3 times a week
for about 3 months. I?ve used it about 20 minutes at a time,
since I purchased it. It has done wonders for my break shot
and for several of my students. Everybody that?s seen it has
been impressed. The only negative comment I've heard is
about the price. BUT when I tell them about the guarantee,
and show them how much they can learn about their break
from using it for just a few minutes, they agree that it's worth
every penny.
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I saw the video. You break and the balls don't really go anywhere, I guess. I understand that you save time by not having to re-rack, but,,,How do you know what you are accomplishing with your break? How do you actually work on it? What type of feedback are you getting? I couldn't tell by the video or looking at the site.
 
the idea behind the BreakRAK is Cue Ball CONTROL on the Break Shot. It's common knowledge that matches are won by the player with a great Break Shot. Professionals run out 28% of their matches, off the Break Shot (meaning >>> an object ball was made on the Break & position on the next object ball to be played is obtained). If you'll map out Cue Ball CONTROL, watching the videos of a few matches, you'll likely find there isn't much of that. Great shooting skills most often gets the Pro back in line for the runout.

People learn "Precision Motor Skills" through REPETITION. Repetition is "not" doing something every 5 minutes, although doing every 5 minutes IS better than no practice at all.

Developing & maintaining a good rhythm, that gives you speed & accuracy, to get a good disbursement of the balls & control the the Cue Ball's position is what the BreakRAK is about. AND it works... I have dozens & dozens of testimonies from satisfied customers & accolades from the Teaching World & some Pros.

Each Pool Table has a "sweet spot". Being able to take a crack at a "simulated perfect rack", from all across the HEAD STRING, so that you will be comfortable when you find that "sweet spot" yourself or you see your opponent scoring from a position, is what training for the Break Shot is all about.

A large number of BreakRAKs are in use. I've had 2 BreakRAKs returned. One lady thought it was a ball racker, another was returned by some clown that kept stretching the cord out of the balls (he wouldn't read the instructions).

Thanks again SeaShooter, for your kind words & good luck
 
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Still an awful lot of $$$$, even if it works. A friend bought one and swears by it, but personally I just can't justify the expenditure.
I wish my friend lived closer. :)
 
Justification is a big word.

I justified the many hours of training & instruction, because I wanted to become a good player & an instructor. The fruit of my labor has been enjoyed immensely & financially. I have a used Schon, a Huebler J/B & leather case that might total up less than a $1000 investment.

I have way more invested than $1000 in lessons, books, videos & practice table time. My concience wouldn't allow me to purchase a high dollar custom cue & not know how to use it. That's my rule of justification, so I can enjoy this great game to fullest of my ability.

it's a great game
 
I didn't get a chance to check out Don's breakrak, but it does sound like a good practice tool. Especially if you're a 9 baller.

I often practice various (common AND random) break ball shots for straight pool, and i just use an empty rack. While it definitely helps out some, I'd like to see a version of the breakrak for practicing 14.1 (and one pocket?) breaks...
 
ceebee said:
the idea behind the BreakRAK is Cue Ball CONTROL on the Break Shot. It's common knowledge that matches are won by the player with a great Break Shot. Professionals run out 28% of their matches, off the Break Shot (meaning >>> an object ball was made on the Break & position on the next object ball to be played is obtained). If you'll map out Cue Ball CONTROL, watching the videos of a few matches, you'll likely find there isn't much of that. Great shooting skills most often gets the Pro back in line for the runout.

People learn "Precision Motor Skills" through REPETITION. Repetition is "not" doing something every 5 minutes, although doing every 5 minutes IS better than no practice at all.

Developing & maintaining a good rhythm, that gives you speed & accuracy, to get a good disbursement of the balls & control the the Cue Ball's position is what the BreakRAK is about. AND it works... I have dozens & dozens of testimonies from satisfied customers & accolades from the Teaching World & some Pros.

Each Pool Table has a "sweet spot". Being able to take a crack at a "simulated perfect rack", from all across the HEAD STRING, so that you will be comfortable when you find that "sweet spot" yourself or you see your opponent scoring from a position, is what training for the Break Shot is all about.

A large number of BreakRAKs are in use. I've had 2 BreakRAKs returned. One lady thought it was a ball racker, another was returned by some clown that kept stretching the cord out of the balls (he wouldn't read the instructions).

Thanks again SeaShooter, for your kind words & good luck
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Hi ceebee,

I noticed on your website that you now sell 3 models of BreakRAKs at different pricepoints. Can you explain the difference between the models.

Thanks,
Brian
 
ashmouth said:
Hi ceebee,

I noticed on your website that you now sell 3 models of BreakRAKs at different pricepoints. Can you explain the difference between the models.

Thanks,
Brian
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All 3 BreakRAKs function the same.

The Std. BreakRAK II fits one size table (customer's choice)

The Deluxe BreakRAK II fits all 3 size tables

The BreakRAK III fits one size table (customer's choice)

The BreakRAK works... because of repetion. I have hundreds of customers that proves that statement.

Any kind of disciplined practice works, that process has been proven for thousands of years, since the first man tried spearing a rabbit & missed...

Good Luck to you folks & thanks for your support
 
ceebee said:
All 3 BreakRAKs function the same.

The Std. BreakRAK II fits one size table (customer's choice)

The Deluxe BreakRAK II fits all 3 size tables

The BreakRAK III fits one size table (customer's choice)

The BreakRAK works... because of repetion. I have hundreds of customers that proves that statement.

Any kind of disciplined practice works, that process has been proven for thousands of years, since the first man tried spearing a rabbit & missed...

Good Luck to you folks & thanks for your support
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Thanks for the info! The break is one area of my game where I know I could make improvement. Would you happen to offer an AZBilliard forum discount?
 
ashmouth said:
Thanks for the info! The break is one area of my game where I know I could make improvement. Would you happen to offer an AZBilliard forum discount?
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Ashmouth, the break is every player's problem. Making a ball & controlling the cue ball is very difficult. That is a difficult task, shooting easy. Don't you agree?

I sincerely thank you for suggesting that I give my friends here at the AZBilliard Forum a discount. That's a great idea.

Let me say this to all.

The BreakRAK costs well over $100 to produce. The BreakRAK is a great tool & I have hundreds of satisfied customers. I will offer all AZBilliard Forumites free shipping... that is $15.00 discount.

I am just trying to give back to my chosen game, my friends, my friendlys & my acquaintances. The BreakRAK keeps an old geezer off the streets. I'm 63 & my pool playing future is bleaker everyday. Very soon I will be re-born, via knee surgery & therapy, or I will be done. No sympathetic replies please.

Good Luck to you players... Pocket Billiards ain't like falling off a log.
 
ceebee said:
Thanks very much for your testimony... I appreciate your kind words & I'm glad you are doing that well.

Fast Larry also has a thread on the BreakRAK....

I can only wish that everybody would wake up today?
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Your book "the great break" is fantastic.
 
LastTwo said:
Your book "the great break" is fantastic.
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Thanks very much LAST TWO & thanks very much to all of you AZBers who have supported me. Lots of you AZBers will have a great Break Shot, real soon.

Always take the break shot, as a spot, if you are breaking well.
 
ceebee said:
Professionals run out 28% of their matches, off the Break Shot (meaning >>> an object ball was made on the Break & position on the next object ball to be played is obtained).
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That percentage seems AWFUL high. I would think it's more like 12% to 15%. In fact I just read it somewhere a year or two ago, but I don't remember where.
 
I believe I read on AZB a reference from Pat Fleming of Accu-Stats that places the break-and-run percentage among the (men) pros at about 30% - a figure which coincides well with the above stat. Just FYI!
 
The Break when it matters.

ceebee said:
Thanks very much LAST TWO & thanks very much to all of you AZBers who have supported me. Lots of you AZBers will have a great Break Shot, real soon.

Always take the break shot, as a spot, if you are breaking well.
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The break is really a very important shot. I was breaking really well with a ball or two in and a nice shape on the next ball. I was down 6-3 and came back to make it a hill-hill (6-6).

Then the inevitable happened, when it should have mattered the most. I lost the whole match on 1 bad break, as I scratch. I pocketed 3 balls and had a really good spread. Darn, my opponent just cleared the table and won 7-6.


Gotta practice those darn breaks.
 
Kerry Impson said:
I believe I read on AZB a reference from Pat Fleming of Accu-Stats that places the break-and-run percentage among the (men) pros at about 30% - a figure which coincides well with the above stat. Just FYI!
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See if you can find it. I'm curious. I just cant see it happening 30% of the time to make a ball on the break, not scratch, get postion, and run the rest of the rack.
 
Vonn31 said:
See if you can find it. I'm curious. I just cant see it happening 30% of the time to make a ball on the break, not scratch, get postion, and run the rest of the rack.
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Phil Capelle in his book, "Play Your Best Nine Ball" talks about break statistics for the pros on page 42 of his book.He himself personally did a study of 500 professional games and found the average for break and runs to be at 28%.Yes, these guys are really, that good.

he goes on to say that Earl Strickland was the highest percentage at 32.7% and Johhny Archer was at 31.7 percent.He also states that they were the top tournament winners of the 90's which kinda shows how important the break is at the pro level.

If a pro breaks,makes a ball and can see the lowest # ball.I like any of their chances.RJ
 
ceebee said:
All 3 BreakRAKs function the same.

The Std. BreakRAK II fits one size table (customer's choice)

The Deluxe BreakRAK II fits all 3 size tables

The BreakRAK III fits one size table (customer's choice)

The BreakRAK works... because of repetion. I have hundreds of customers that proves that statement.
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What does this Training Device Cost?
 
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