Abc?

[Gerry]

I know this has been gone over many times, but I'd like to clarify player ranking by letters, especially down here in Florida where I live. I've been talking to people about different rooms and players speed, and I"m just trying to get it clear in my head. Here's my take:

A player = just below shortstop, or as good, plays all games well. Can run 75 balls, maybe string 4/5 racks, and knows some 1 pocket moves.

B player = about 3 balls below an A, will surprise you at times, with good and bad play.

C player = still learning, can run out occasionally, not a threat to the above.

obviously there are the + and - to each of these catagories, but that's how I see them. What do you all think?

thanks, Gerry

 

[Rickw]

A lot depends on the ph. I don't agree with your C description. I don't think a real C runs out occasionally. Once in a great while maybe.

Also, an A player in 9b doesn't have to run 75 balls in straight pool imho.
Those are two totally different games.

I know this has been gone over many times, but I'd like to clarify player ranking by letters, especially down here in Florida where I live. I've been talking to people about different rooms and players speed, and I"m just trying to get it clear in my head. Here's my take:

A player = just below shortstop, or as good, plays all games well. Can run 75 balls, maybe string 4/5 racks, and knows some 1 pocket moves.

B player = about 3 balls below an A, will surprise you at times, with good and bad play.

C player = still learning, can run out occasionally, not a threat to the above.

obviously there are the + and - to each of these catagories, but that's how I see them. What do you all think?

thanks, Gerry

 

[scottycoyote]

yeah to me you cant throw in the straight pool/1 pocket on the A player and then the rest of the rankings is about 9ball. To me an A player is going to get out 95%+ of the times that they should on a 9ball rack. A c player would rarely run a rack, maybe once in every 40 or 50 racks. B player is gonna get out maybe a little better than 50% of the time they should.

 

[Cornerman]

I know this has been gone over many times, but I'd like to clarify player ranking by letters, especially down here in Florida where I live. I've been talking to people about different rooms and players speed, and I"m just trying to get it clear in my head. Here's my take:

A player = just below shortstop, or as good, plays all games well. Can run 75 balls, maybe string 4/5 racks, and knows some 1 pocket moves.

B player = about 3 balls below an A, will surprise you at times, with good and bad play.

C player = still learning, can run out occasionally, not a threat to the above.

obviously there are the + and - to each of these catagories, but that's how I see them. What do you all think?

thanks, Gerry

Here's what Tom in Cincy (aka Sactown Tom) wrote about what Bob Campbell (aka doitforthegame)wrote. Both are AZBilliard forum members:

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9-Ball Tournament race to 7 (Dec.1997 "All About Pool" magazine, article
by Bob Cambell)
Handicap rankings
(pardon my poor para-phrasing)

D- Player
will not run a rack
average run is about 3 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
rarely plays a successful safe


C-Player
will probably run one rack, but usually not more than one
avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
mixed results when playing safe
inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a
safe.


B-Player
Able to run 1 to 3 racks
avg. run is 5-7 balls
with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit
easily 2 out of 3 times
a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a
won game


A-Player
will string 2 to 3 racks
avg. ball run, 7-9
with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.


OPEN-Players
average 8+ balls
string racks together more than once in a match
is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every
inning
typical inning will end in excellent safety or win

Mr. Cambell continues this article with a handicap chart for the 4
levels of each type of player. The chart would look like this;
Lowest handicap is D4, then D3, then D2 and so on until the highest
would be OPEN 1


---------------------------------------------------------

 

[Gerry]

Excelent post Fred....thanx!

Rick,That might be where the difference is between Florida and Pa. In Pa. We rarely called someone an "A" player if they only played 1 game well.

Gerry

 

[Jaden]

Here's what Tom in Cincy (aka Sactown Tom) wrote about what Bob Campbell (aka doitforthegame)wrote. Both are AZBilliard forum members:

------------------------------------------------
9-Ball Tournament race to 7 (Dec.1997 "All About Pool" magazine, article
by Bob Cambell)
Handicap rankings
(pardon my poor para-phrasing)

D- Player
will not run a rack
average run is about 3 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
rarely plays a successful safe


C-Player
will probably run one rack, but usually not more than one
avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
mixed results when playing safe
inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a
safe.


B-Player
Able to run 1 to 3 racks
avg. run is 5-7 balls
with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit
easily 2 out of 3 times
a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a
won game


A-Player
will string 2 to 3 racks
avg. ball run, 7-9
with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.


OPEN-Players
average 8+ balls
string racks together more than once in a match
is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every
inning
typical inning will end in excellent safety or win

Mr. Cambell continues this article with a handicap chart for the 4
levels of each type of player. The chart would look like this;
Lowest handicap is D4, then D3, then D2 and so on until the highest
would be OPEN 1


---------------------------------------------------------

This is a well written description of the a-d rankings....Subtitute Open player fro A+ player and that's pretty much what Cali goes by with an additional being world class.

 

[Rickw]

Gerry,

No one plays straight pool here in California very often, at least not where I live. Most people here play 9b and 1h. The majority play 9b. I'm sure the excellent 9b players would be able to pick the game up pretty soon.

Excelent post Fred....thanx!

Rick,That might be where the difference is between Florida and Pa. In Pa. We rarely called someone an "A" player if they only played 1 game well.

Gerry

 

[sjm]

Here's what Tom in Cincy (aka Sactown Tom) wrote about what Bob Campbell (aka doitforthegame)wrote. Both are AZBilliard forum members:

------------------------------------------------
9-Ball Tournament race to 7 (Dec.1997 "All About Pool" magazine, article
by Bob Cambell)
Handicap rankings
(pardon my poor para-phrasing)

D- Player
will not run a rack
average run is about 3 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
rarely plays a successful safe


C-Player
will probably run one rack, but usually not more than one
avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
mixed results when playing safe
inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a
safe.


B-Player
Able to run 1 to 3 racks
avg. run is 5-7 balls
with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit
easily 2 out of 3 times
a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a
won game


A-Player
will string 2 to 3 racks
avg. ball run, 7-9
with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.


OPEN-Players
average 8+ balls
string racks together more than once in a match
is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every
inning
typical inning will end in excellent safety or win

Mr. Cambell continues this article with a handicap chart for the 4
levels of each type of player. The chart would look like this;
Lowest handicap is D4, then D3, then D2 and so on until the highest
would be OPEN 1


---------------------------------------------------------

This looks very accurate to me.

Here in NYC, in Tri State tour tournaments: a) An A player is required to give 2 games on the wire in a race to 7 against a B player, b) an A player is required to give 4 games on the wire in a race to 9 to a C player, and c) a B player must give 2 games on the wire in a race to 7 to a C player.