ACA - What has changed to force a friend to resign his memebership

[TellsItLikeItIs]

Let's look at some of these statements in a different context. I believe it was Chris Hightower who had the post about elitism. I don't think Blud will back him up on that.
ICA has some membership rules, first your check must not bounce, and secondly, well, I can't think of any other ones. So are they international elitists.
Don't throw that patriot crap around me, I was carrying a military id before you were carrying a drivers license. By the way, I still have mine, as does my son. My dad had one also. Dave Jacoby served in Viet Nam.
I'm sure some of the other members are patriots also.
You all can pick this apart all you want, I'm going to take a walk about. Had enough of wanna be B.S. for a while.

Youre not the only one that feels that same way cutter. I read his post several days ago but been too pi$$ed to comment on it. Thought it was better for me to cool off a little first. My tongue sure is getting sore though.

 

[Sheldon]

Being a patriot doesn't mean blindly believing in everything your country does.
A true patriot will struggle to make their country better.
A true patriot will know when they are lied to, and speak out against it.

 

[blud]

sorry

I was aware of that Blud.
I was paying you a complement.

I am also aware you started the ACA.

Willie, am sorry, I took it the wrong way.
Thanks, sir...
blud

 

[blud]

up hill

I'm joining the ICA. Whether I agree or disagree with organizational procedures & ideas from either organization, I do feel it's all cuemakers' obligation & responsibility to contribute something to our trade. We all need to contribute to the promotion of cuemaking. We all need to work together to enlighten the buyers of why cues cost so much. None of us are going to get rich, and cues are never going to become main stream art. But we can make things better if we try. The two organizations have taken the initiative so I chose the one I feel is best & i'm supporting it. I never got off my ass to make things happen, so atleast i'll give financial support to the guy who is. Not only is he trying to help himself, but all of us in general.

I don't know if i'll ever get anything back. I likely have nothing to gain from it rather than knowing I helped them out. Who knows, maybe i'll become involved & try to make things happen. But not right now. So instead of *****ing & moaning about how crappy the trade is, i'm atleast offering support to the guys actively lobbying for it.

As for the ACA, they should feel ashamed using American in their name when their ideology blatantly conflicts with American ideology. American ideology is equal opportunity to all men, freedom & non elitism as all men are created equal. There are other words to insinuate greatness that could be used in the title. I myself am an American cuemaker, a patriot, a veteran of two American/foreign wars, simply an American. I have my own beliefs & ideology but do not blanket it with America's name. To do so is offensive to her name & blatantly hypocrytical. Discriminate at will & create your own elitist laws as you wish, but for the sake of American cuemakers as a whole, don't associate your club with America.

.....just the rants of a "not in the know" "non qualified" "non elitist", maybe semi-retarded American cuemaker. As Eddie says, "i'm a man of my convictions".[/QUOTE

Let's look at some of these statements in a different context. I believe it was Chris Hightower who had the post about elitism. I don't think Blud will back him up on that.
ICA has some membership rules, first your check must not bounce, and secondly, well, I can't think of any other ones. So are they international elitists.
Don't throw that patriot crap around me, I was carrying a military id before you were carrying a drivers license. By the way, I still have mine, as does my son. My dad had one also. Dave Jacoby served in Viet Nam.
I'm sure some of the other members are patriots also.
You all can pick this apart all you want, I'm going to take a walk about. Had enough of wanna be B.S. for a while.

Steve, it's not worth the time to waist on this thread. Some side here, there, and nothing good becomes of it, over the long run.
blud

 

[qbilder]

My beliefs are what they are. Like it or not. As for wannabe, I think you are barking up the wrong tree.

 

[abe]

last words.

Thank you to all the fine members of the ICA and ACA who has contributed to this topic.

Dan is a close personal friend of mine. As it has been suggested, this thread has deviated from its original intention, which was to inform everyone that after 17 years, Dan Dishaw as a loyal member of the ACA, 10 years as President and credited with being responsible for what the ACA is today with a lot of help to forge a fine organization has now resigned cause he feels the new administration is moving away from the principles that were set during his service to that organization.

The changes of any administration will upset the the previous one everytime.
They always do some changes to promote themselves and distance themselves from their predecessor. Unfortunatley Mr. Jacoby's changes have hit at the heart of the ACA principles which Dan with others fought to get a bunch of very egotistical self center men to agree too.

The economy and the down turn in the market on these high end cues and the production of those cues all have changed the pool manufacturing business in many ways that were out of the cuemakers control. So now the cuemakers have made the expense of investing in all the equipment and knowledge and they still need a consolidated front or group to accentuate their talents. So is the current president really doing much wrong? No, I think that change is part of the cycle in the business world as well as in life.

Everyone be blessed

Mr. Lincoln

 

[paulybatz]

It all goes to ROI

Simple economics, is there a return on investment...and tap tap for qbilder's comments too.

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Thank you to all the fine members of the ICA and ACA who has contributed to this topic.

Dan is a close personal friend of mine. As it has been suggested, this thread has deviated from its original intention, which was to inform everyone that after 17 years, Dan Dishaw as a loyal member of the ACA, 10 years as President and credited with being responsible for what the ACA is today with a lot of help to forge a fine organization has now resigned cause he feels the new administration is moving away from the principles that were set during his service to that organization.

The changes of any administration will upset the the previous one everytime.
They always do some changes to promote themselves and distance themselves from their predecessor. Unfortunatley Mr. Jacoby's changes have hit at the heart of the ACA principles which Dan with others fought to get a bunch of very egotistical self center men to agree too.

The economy and the down turn in the market on these high end cues and the production of those cues all have changed the pool manufacturing business in many ways that were out of the cuemakers control. So now the cuemakers have made the expense of investing in all the equipment and knowledge and they still need a consolidated front or group to accentuate their talents. So is the current president really doing much wrong? No, I think that change is part of the cycle in the business world as well as in life.

Everyone be blessed

Mr. Lincoln

 

[blud]

wrong,sir

Thank you to all the fine members of the ICA and ACA who has contributed to this topic.


The changes of any administration will upset the the previous one everytime.
They always do some changes to promote themselves and distance themselves from their predecessor. Unfortunatley Mr. Jacoby's changes have hit at the heart of the ACA principles which Dan with others fought to get a bunch of very egotistical self center men to agree too.


Everyone be blessed

Mr. Lincoln

Mr. Lincolin, I'm appalled at your thread and statements. You have your opinion, and it should be just that, yours. You have no voice in the matter at all.

I'm in no way trying to start a war, [ so no one go there, thanks], your way off base, your not a member of the ACA, your opinion should be just that, your opinion, and kept to yourself.

As the founder of this fine association, I, do know sir, that your wrong first off writting about an association you know nothing about, secondly, you have not heard both sides of this, and never will. Stating such an opinion, is within it's self, is dead wrong, not knowing all there is to know, from both sides.

Your statement about change from one administration to the other will up set one everytime, is not so true. When I, sir, was president for two terms, and vice persident for two terms, handing the association over, was not at all up setting. For the record, I did resign during my second term as President, for personal reasons.

Dave Jacoby is not changing so much, he's moving ahead, and I, might add with a great board, and doing a great job. Your only looking at this thru one persons eyes, not thru the associations eyes. It takes the board and it's members to change things, they wanted change and got it....

I personally feel that the curent administration is doing a fine job.

I should know better than most, as I was there from the get go, laying out rules and by-laws that still stand today...

Not taking anything away from the past adminstraion, or past board members. All worked very hard, and all were thanked for there work.

Please do not take this wrong sir, it's really time for this thread to go away. It should of never been posted, as it never belonged here.

Let us all go on with our lives and businesses, there's other topics that are much more important than one sided, gossup columns...

I, know that my late wife, {JANICE}, as a founder, would agree..

So, please put it to bed..

Leonard and Janice Bludworth,
founders of the AMERICAN CUEMAKERS ASSOCIATION.

 

[Sheldon]

I'm appalled that someone politely exercising their right of free speech would make someone appalled.
If you don't like someone's opinion, debate the issue. Telling them they don't have the right to their opinion is silly.

 

[blud]

silly, please

I'm appalled that someone politely exercising their right of free speech would make someone appalled.
If you don't like someone's opinion, debate the issue. Telling them they don't have the right to their opinion is silly.

Sheldon, you have all the right as anyone to an opinion.

It's impossible to debate the issue when you don't know both sides.

All stories have two sides....It's amazing to me that someone would come here and give an opinion, not knowing the whole story, kind of one sided to say the least...Not fair to the ACA....or it's members...

You guys know nothing of what transpired, so why talk about it, and cause more rumors.....There's a hell of a lot more about what went on than either of you folks will ever know....

One thing for sure, the ACA is doing very well, with or without your opinions...

blud

 

[jasonlaus]

Mr. Lincolin, I'm appalled at your thread and statements. You have your opinion, and it should be just that, yours. You have no voice in the matter at all.

I'm in no way trying to start a war, [ so no one go there, thanks], your way off base, your not a member of the ACA, your opinion should be just that, your opinion, and kept to yourself.

As the founder of this fine association, I, do know sir, that your wrong first off writting about an association you know nothing about, secondly, you have not heard both sides of this, and never will. Stating such an opinion, is within it's self, is dead wrong, not knowing all there is to know, from both sides.

Your statement about change from one administration to the other will up set one everytime, is not so true. When I, sir, was president for two terms, and vice persident for two terms, handing the association over, was not at all up setting. For the record, I did resign during my second term as President, for personal reasons.

Dave Jacoby is not changing so much, he's moving ahead, and I, might add with a great board, and doing a great job. Your only looking at this thru one persons eyes, not thru the associations eyes. It takes the board and it's members to change things, they wanted change and got it....

I personally feel that the curent administration is doing a fine job.

I should know better than most, as I was there from the get go, laying out rules and by-laws that still stand today...

Not taking anything away from the past adminstraion, or past board members. All worked very hard, and all were thanked for there work.

Please do not take this wrong sir, it's really time for this thread to go away. It should of never been posted, as it never belonged here.

Let us all go on with our lives and businesses, there's other topics that are much more important than one sided, gossup columns...

I, know that my late wife, {JANICE}, as a founder, would agree..

So, please put it to bed..

Leonard and Janice Bludworth,
founders of the AMERICAN CUEMAKERS ASSOCIATION.

I'm shocked at this statement. No I'm not nevermind.