Acs vs apa Vegas nationals

[mvp]

I've takin a few years off and got back into pool hard this the last 10months and was considering a Vegas trip in 2018, I've attended several apa events along with the vnea but never went out for ACS. I got to admit I enjoyed the mini carnival like atmosphere APA had to offer (at least 15yrs ago) but I'm more interested in the ACS Vegas experience. Paying a entry and showing up after joining my local league is the path of least resistance. my goal would be to try to cash in, in the open singles. But that's a 2 day event, so my questions are: is there enough mini's and other vender like stuff to kill an entire week by myself? Or should I throw together a team also?

 

[Mark Griffin]

Consider the BCAPL - much larger and more players of ALL skill levels........

Be sure to bring a Fargo rating - lol.

 

[mvp]

Consider the BCAPL - much larger and more players of ALL skill levels........

Be sure to bring a Fargo rating - lol.

My only options are acs or apa, is bca a pay and play event? I'm gonna do some googling in morning about it!

 

[cardiac kid]

I've takin a few years off and got back into pool hard this the last 10months and was considering a Vegas trip in 2018, I've attended several apa events along with the vnea but never went out for ACS. I got to admit I enjoyed the mini carnival like atmosphere APA had to offer (at least 15yrs ago) but I'm more interested in the ACS Vegas experience. Paying a entry and showing up after joining my local league is the path of least resistance. my goal would be to try to cash in, in the open singles. But that's a 2 day event, so my questions are: is there enough mini's and other vender like stuff to kill an entire week by myself? Or should I throw together a team also?

I've played ACS every year since it began. Men's 9 ball is a two day event with players handicapped based on known ability. Players race to 10, 9 , 7 and 5 in one event. Men's 8 ball is divided up again by known ability but each group plays it's own two day event.

One problem for you, registration for this years ACS event is closed. You might contact the national office (www.americancuesports.org) to get definative information. If you are going to the VNEA event, I'll be there as well. Perhaps we can meet. I'll be playing Masters 8 and 9 ball. The team I play on is Dicks Pick from Las Vegas. Masters as well.

Not going to the BCAPL's this year. First time since 1992???? Great event but.... Just don't like the Fargo. Rather than complain, I'll stay home. The number of vendors should be about the same between the VNEA and BCAPL events. ACS has far fewer. Regardless of which events you choose to play in, have FUN. Welcome to Vegas!

Lyn

 

[trob]

I finished high in the team event at the acs and the payout was imbarrasing. They do a nice job but it's to small for me to ever travel to the other side of the country of again.

 

[cardiac kid]

I finished high in the team event at the acs and the payout was imbarrasing. They do a nice job but it's to small for me to ever travel to the other side of the country of again.

Have you looked at the payouts for last years BCAPL? There are so many divisions and far fewer players, the payouts are not that different. If you delete the USAPL event running concurrently from the mix, the attendence is not that different. Yes, the ACS is a smaller group but..... ever run into a door nazi at the Tropicana? Ever had a 116 degree day in May? Each group has it's advantages and disadvantages. Why I usually play in all I qualify for.

Lyn

 

[ctyhntr]

Unless the rules changed, I remembered you needed to participated in a minimum number of league matches to qualify as an active BCA league member to qualify.

I was told by veteran league players when all three leagues (BCA, APA, and ACS) held their tournaments at the Riviera, it was possible to stay for entire month or two and play back to back tournaments.

My only options are acs or apa, is bca a pay and play event? I'm gonna do some googling in morning about it!

 

[cardiac kid]

Unless the rules changed, I remembered you needed to participated in a minimum number of league matches to qualify as an active BCA league member to qualify.

I was told by veteran league players when all three leagues (BCA, APA, and ACS) held their tournaments at the Riviera, it was possible to stay for entire month or two and play back to back tournaments.

Yep! ACS, BCAPL,VNEA and APA were all at the Riv. First VNEA moved to Bally's. Then ACS to the Tropicana. BCAPL left for the Rio and APA finally left for the Westgate.

Except for APA and VNEA, none of the other sanctioning bodies required a player to be a regular league member. If you wanted to play singles, just send them the entry money plus the sanctioning fee and you could play. For a while, BCAPL required an unknown player to enter the Masters bracket. With BCAPL now using Fargo Rate to separate ability, you now can play in the same divisions with regular league players. No team events though. ACS still requires unknown non-league players to play in the advanced (masters) division.

Lyn

 

[Mark Griffin]

BCAPL has about 45 exhibitors and 75 booths. That is way more than either ACS or VNEA. With BCAPL, you can play almost 24 hours a day in either practice tables or minis. All tables are open. (except the first days of the larger events). There will also be a free shuttle from the Rio to GRIFFS - probably 24 hours.

We expect around 5,000 different competitors, VNEA is usually around 3,000 and ACS is about 1,100. Obviously these are estimates - so don't say I lied if I'm off a little - lol.

Hope to see you here. Go to http://www.playcsipool.com/2017-bcapl-national-championships.html for more info or to register.

Mark Griffin

I've played ACS every year since it began. Men's 9 ball is a two day event with players handicapped based on known ability. Players race to 10, 9 , 7 and 5 in one event. Men's 8 ball is divided up again by known ability but each group plays it's own two day event.

One problem for you, registration for this years ACS event is closed. You might contact the national office (www.americancuesports.org) to get definative information. If you are going to the VNEA event, I'll be there as well. Perhaps we can meet. I'll be playing Masters 8 and 9 ball. The team I play on is Dicks Pick from Las Vegas. Masters as well.

Not going to the BCAPL's this year. First time since 1992???? Great event but.... Just don't like the Fargo. Rather than complain, I'll stay home. The number of vendors should be about the same between the VNEA and BCAPL events. ACS has far fewer. Regardless of which events you choose to play in, have FUN. Welcome to Vegas!

Lyn

 

[eastcoast_chris]

Hey Lyn,

Chris here... on of the guys from Nova Scotia who you've played a few times in Advanced teams at the ACS....

My take on the ACS is;

- About 1/5 the size of the BCA event in July at the Rio.
- No pro events, which kind of sucks, but I really never have time to watch anyways.
- Still a good size tournament and setup, run well. I enjoy it, but it is no BCA.
- Cost is about the same to enter/hotel/etc.... but I've made more $'s at the ACS for sure!

I went to the BCA for about 8 years straight at the Riv.... when it got changed from the Riv in May to the Rio in July, I never went back. Too hot in July and I'd be missing part of our excellent Canadian summer.

I'll be at the ACS/Tropicana on May 12th-18th ... playing 9ball, 8ball, Scotch doubles.... no teams this year.

It will be me and about 30-40 other Nova Scotians once again...playing a little pool and drinking a lot of beer!

P.S. if the BCA ever switches back to May (I've heard some rumours?) then I definitely go to it again.

 

[mvp]

75% of me is playing singles while the other 25% is enjoying the atmosphere and running around Vegas, so as it stands it sounds like bca is the way to go, and acs a close second!