Addicted Triangle Duds

HueblerHustler7

HueblerHustler7

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I have successfully made myself an awesome reliable tip, after trial and error I am extremely pleased with the results of my Triangle duds :thumbup:

PROCESS

I take 13mm pre domed Triangles, sand the top sides and bottom and soak the for 24 hours in deans half and half. Next 24 hours I soak them in lactose free milk, I feel this is better for the integrity of the tips internal structure being its less acidic. Next, I microwave the tip submerged in the milk just so it gets warm ( 10 seconds at most ). Heat = Expansion, therefor the tip will expand and soak further into the tip. Finally I press them for 24 hours in the dime radius of the ultimate tip tool ( Without the sanding part ) I enjoy a medium-hard to hard playing tip so I tighten them quite a bit. Last, allow the tip to fully cure and dry for at least 24 hours before install.

They burnish well but look even better by applying a black sharpie to the sides when on the lathe ( Thanks Jon Spitz )

Mine has not mushroomed yet and has not glazed at all, gets great spin, virtually no miscues, it's a problem with stroke in most cases not the tip

So overall grabs the ball great, no mushroom, breaks extremely well, and so far no glaze problems. Im done with layered tips, plus cant beat the price and life of Triangles, by doing this I will have consistent tips that I love for awhile.

My secrets out enjoy everyone. Any questions just ask.

UPDATE, Tips are available for sale PM me if you are interested.
 
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Can u tell us more about them? I've always wanted to try and make some.. -Thanks
Bryan
 
I too have had this experiment on my cue, and they seem to work well. I'll stick to my traditional ones though.


best,

Justin
 
bapage said:
Can u tell us more about them? I've always wanted to try and make some.. -Thanks
Bryan
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I take 13mm pre domed Triangles, sand the top sides and bottom and soak the for 24 hours in deans half and half. Next 24 hours I soak them in lactose free milk, I feel this is better for the integrity of the tips internal structure being its less acidic. Next, I microwave the tip submerged in the milk just so it gets warm. Heat = Expansion, therefor the tip will expand and soak further into the tip. Finally I press them for 24 hours in the dime radius of the ultimate tip tool ( Without the sanding part ), I enjoy a medium-hard to hard playing tip so I tighten them quite a bit.

They burnish well but look even better by applying a black sharpie to the sides when on the lathe ( Thanks Jon Spitz ) :)

Mine has not mushroomed yet and has not glazed at all, gets great spin, virtually no miscues, it's a problem with stroke in most cases not the tip:wink:

So overall grabs the ball great, no mushroom, breaks extremely well, and so far no glaze problems. Im done with layered tips, plus cant beat the price and life of Triangles, by doing this I will have consistent tips that I love for awhile.

My secrets out enjoy everyone. Any questions just ask.
 
PC_John said:
Why half n half and milk? What does the milk do that water doesn't do? :confused:
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Milk has a binding compound called Casein. This works as a binder for the fibers in the tip... I find that this works well for both expanding and changing the interior structure of the tip. i'm sure some people use water, I just don't see any use in water other than to expand a tip.
 
Thanks for the recipe! I have been thinking about making a tip press when I found this unit. You can't beat the price if it works good.

http://www.piconecues.com/id10.html
 

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Cuebuddy said:
Thanks for the recipe! I have been thinking about making a tip press when I found this unit. You can't beat the price if it works good.

http://www.piconecues.com/id10.html
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Yes that tool is great especially if you hook up the pressure gauge you will get very consistent tips. I've thought about picking one up myself but I'm liking the way the tips are turning out so far so I don't want to veer away just yet.

As far as trying the recipe, don't get discouraged if some don't turn out as well as others. Best of luck, trust me you will know if ones bad. Remember that triangles have become real inconsistent lately, something with their manufacturing process I believe.
 
HueblerHustler7 said:
Yes that tool is great especially if you hook up the pressure gauge you will get very consistent tips. I've thought about picking one up myself but I'm liking the way the tips are turning out so far so I don't want to veer away just yet.

As far as trying the recipe, don't get discouraged if some don't turn out as well as others. Best of luck, trust me you will know if ones bad. Remember that triangles have become real inconsistent lately, something with their manufacturing process I believe.
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I have customers who like soft tips and I am wondering if a tip could be soaked and only pressed with light pressure? I might need to experiment a little.
I believe that tips get hard with play but it would be cool to have a milk dud that resisted mushrooming but is still on the soft side.:cool:
 
Cuebuddy said:
I have customers who like soft tips and I am wondering if a tip could be soaked and only pressed with light pressure? I might need to experiment a little.
I believe that tips get hard with play but it would be cool to have a milk dud that resisted mushrooming but is still on the soft side.:cool:
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Triangles are already a pretty hard tip, but this might be possible with experimentation. This tip definitely puts hell of action on the cue ball like a soft tip but does not have the mushy feeling I hate. Beauty of pressing 13mm tips with a pre-dome is that the sides will get compressed slightly more than the middle resulting in sides that are less common to mushroom but still have a nice hit in the center of the tip:thumbup:

If you want to try something that you can play around with the softness I might suggest using this recipe on Elk master tips:cool:
 
the tip presser is a good tool. the only problem is that you wont be able to see or measure how pressed the tip is.

i use a mixture of Elmer's white glue and water for soaking the tip. i press using a bench vise for 2 days. i've tried this with triangle tips and i get really good results. also tried this with elk master and the laminated Emerald tip(my favorite).
 
PC_John said:
Why half n half and milk? What does the milk do that water doesn't do? :confused:
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I can't esssplain the science, but take a glass of each and leave em on the counter for a couple of days and let us know if you think the 2 are possibly different:eek:
 
Black-Balled said:
I can't esssplain the science, but take a glass of each and leave em on the counter for a couple of days and let us know if you think the 2 are possibly different:eek:
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mmmmkayy, I never said the two weren't different. I certainly could have stated the question a little better tho. :wink:
 
I couldn't resist this Addicted Triangle Duds thread. I thought it was going to be about pot-infused Milk Duds.

YUMMY!!!!

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EagleMan
 
Elk masters are not bad,using tip press you can mark the drill press where to stop and that will insure some consistency, make my own and have about 15 or so players that for the last 3 years...nothing else, my fluids are two fold..
 
Basically casein are milk proteins... Using half and half or whole milk is actually going the wrong way as milk is graded by milk fat which is not the ingredient you are looking for...

The next thing to know is that during the pasteurization process you will lose some of the proteins so you would like to make your duds out of fresh milk if available...

Using heat on the milk early in the process is a bad idea because heat will break down the proteins further.....

A few more things to know... different tips have to be deconstructed different ways to process them... generally different solvents with or without heat.....

One trick to deciding which tips to process is to use the old float test... IF an elk master or triangle floats in water toss it and don't waste the time on it if you are trying to get consistent results.....

These are tips for using milk.. Whole nother ballgame using "other" stuff =)

Chris
 
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