Age Old Drill Situation

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DrCue'sProtege

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Ok, we have all done/heard/read about the age old drill of shooting the CB down table and having it come back and hit your tip. So, since i still struggle with draw shots i decided i was going to do this drill hitting low on the CB. here's what i did:

I used the Elephant Ball with the black stripe and red circle so i could see where i contacted the CB with the tip to make sure i was spot on. Many times the ball came off the end rail and would go to the left, sometimes to the right. but yet the chalk mark on the Elephant CB was right where it should be.

I thought i might be aiming wrong so i then placed two object balls down on the end rail and aimed the Elephant CB between them to be sure i was hitting where i was aiming. the two OB on the end rail were fairly close, less than two inches apart and i hit them a time or two. however, for the most part i hit the CB right smack between these two balls and based upon the chalk mark i hit the Elephant CB right where i was aiming. Yet the CB still continued to come off to the left, and occasionally to the right.

Can anyone offer any helpful thoughts? remember i am striking the CB at 6:00 on this drill. I figure this might be a good drill to practice the accuracy of my draw stroke.

DCP
 
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Most regulation OB are 2¼ inches, putting two OBs on the end rail with less then two inches... I am wondering how the Elephant ball ever missed them. Unless the Elephant ball was less then 2 inches in diameter.

IMO the rail might not be striaght, and the Elephant CB is just bouncing off at at a slight angle.

DrCue'sProtege said:
the two OB on the end rail were fairly close, less than two inches apart and i hit them a time or two. however, for the most part i hit the CB right smack between these two balls and based upon the chalk mark i hit the Elephant CB right where i was aiming. Yet the CB still continued to come off to the left, and occasionally to the right.
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DCP
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Just a wild guess here ... but maybe your stroke isn't solid and after you are hitting the cue you are chicken winging out and pushing the cue off line through the ball imparting just a bit of english. If you aren't stroking straight through the cue ball I can only imagine you would be giving the cue some slight side spin.
 
Tom In Cincy said:
Most regulation OB are 2¼ inches, putting two OBs on the end rail with less then two inches... I am wondering how the Elephant ball ever missed them. Unless the Elephant ball was less then 2 inches in diameter.

IMO the rail might not be striaght, and the Elephant CB is just bouncing off at at a slight angle.
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yeah, i meant about three inches. i had about 1/4 inch on each side.

and the thought about trying a different CB might be a good idea. anybody ever heard about those Elephant Balls not being perfectly round?

DCP
 
Put a mirror up at the other end of the table, or a video camera. You will see if the cue travels on either side of the vertical centre axis, thus putting side spin on the cue ball.

Just because the chalk mark is where you were trying to hit, it does not follow that you were stroking straight through the ball:D
 
Scaramouche said:
Put a mirror up at the other end of the table, or a video camera. You will see if the cue travels on either side of the vertical centre axis, thus putting side spin on the cue ball.

Just because the chalk mark is where you were trying to hit, it does not follow that you were stroking straight through the ball:D
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i think i do have a wobble after the stroke. and its mostly to my left, which would explain alot i think. i think the harder i stroke the worse it is. i even think i posted a thread about this "wobbling" 2-3 years ago.

i am going to try it again tonight.

DCP
 
The particular drill you are referring to...if you have a flaw in your stroke, when you start putting more speed on the ball, things are gonna get worse, not better. Hitting the ball harder emphasizes the flaw. Try hitting the ball just hard enough to get it back to the end rail (extremely easy) and see if you aren't more accurate.
 
Get the JR Training Ball. The rings and lines will really show where you are hitting the CB. It also has a coating on it to make the chalk stick to it. Just be sure to wipe the chalk mark off after each shot because the chalk will stain it if left on and don't use any cleaners on it as it will remove the coating.
 
Hi there,

if you *JUST* wanna find out, if your stroke is straight-test it with a stripes-ball.
anyway- without a straight and repeatable stroke you ll never be able to execute any shot really exactly.
Start with good fundamentals and basics- or you ll try to catch something you ll never reach....

lg
Ingo
 
Clean the table, Then hit the shot about 30 times at speed. Now look at the lines on the cloth from your follow thru where the tip touched the cloth after the contact with the cueball. IF you are swerving, ie bad stance, you will see a consistent pattern curving left or right. Clean the table, Now adjust your stance until the lines on the cloth go straight... Best way I know to correct a setup problem.
 
Just as it can look to us like we're aiming center-ball when we're really not, you might be placing the CB slightly turned one way or the other, which could give you false center-ball chalk marks.

Another possibility is that you're not being careful enough to place the CB exactly opposite the right spot on the rail.

pj
chgo
 
steinarne said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCiDMcTxW8A#t=1m30s
here is your explaination
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thats a very good explanation. all i can say is that you would have to have a very accurate stroke to shoot a draw shot down table and have it return to your tip.

i practiced a few more times last night and got 3-4 to actually return and hit my tip and a few others to get close. i'd say with this drill that getting close would be pretty good.

thanks for all the comments posters!

DCP
 
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