"Ahha" moment in my stroke

clarkie39

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You always read about people having "ahha" moment in Pool. It's when they finally "get it"...They get what they either have been reading about or been instructed on. I had one today thanks to Scott Lee. I read where Scott instructs students to slow down their backstroke... Really slow... No, I mean Sloooowwww....Well I spent an a couple hours on that specifically and my forward stroke improved and my follow thru is automatic. I finaaly got that feeling of truly "throwing" the cue stick thru the cueball. It feels like the tip is on the cueball forever. My grip is light and easy . It all came together that last half hour of practice.. Now can I repeat it ? Only God knows...But at least I know the feeling, and I know what to look for. It's actually a relief . Thanks Az billiard forum .. Thanks Scott Lee..
 
You always read about people having "ahha" moment in Pool. It's when they finally "get it"...They get what they either have been reading about or been instructed on. I had one today thanks to Scott Lee. I read where Scott instructs students to slow down their backstroke... Really slow... No, I mean Sloooowwww....Well I spent an a couple hours on that specifically and my forward stroke improved and my follow thru is automatic. I finaaly got that feeling of truly "throwing" the cue stick thru the cueball. It feels like the tip is on the cueball forever. My grip is light and easy . It all came together that last half hour of practice.. Now can I repeat it ? Only God knows...But at least I know the feeling, and I know what to look for. It's actually a relief . Thanks Az billiard forum .. Thanks Scott Lee..

Video tape it on your smart phone and watch it when you are struggling :thumbup:
 
You always read about people having "ahha" moment in Pool. It's when they finally "get it"...They get what they either have been reading about or been instructed on. I had one today thanks to Scott Lee. I read where Scott instructs students to slow down their backstroke... Really slow... No, I mean Sloooowwww....Well I spent an a couple hours on that specifically and my forward stroke improved and my follow thru is automatic. I finaaly got that feeling of truly "throwing" the cue stick thru the cueball. It feels like the tip is on the cueball forever. My grip is light and easy . It all came together that last half hour of practice.. Now can I repeat it ? Only God knows...But at least I know the feeling, and I know what to look for. It's actually a relief . Thanks Az billiard forum .. Thanks Scott Lee..


The good news you will repeat it more often in practice than under pressure. The issue with pool is there is so many reason/variable to miss a shot, unfortunately good stroke is only one of those reasons. The sad news it is a function of the human brain of which its state varies too due to many variables some known and some are not.

However, once you know all pool knowledge/secrets you will become much more consistent, lets take the example of a shot where you want to hit an OB with a draw shot, the OB is about six diamonds away from CB with say 30 degrees angle, right of the bat, due to distance draw english might not last until CB reaches OB, and CB contacts OB with not much back spin it will throw OB off (under cut), and most likely you will miss, if you have perfect draw you will make it that is one scenario, say your tip hits CB with slight right spin, now the issue becomes more complicated due to factoring in cue properties as well as CB swerve, elevation, speed you name it. When you factor all variables in pool for 9x4.5 table divided into 6" square you get almost 4000 possibilities of shots. Once all are mastered, the brain will be much better fit to deal with situation under pressure and you will know for sure why you miss, not only stroke. This is why it is critical to practice all kind of shots for hours, days, months, before you start practicing racking 9 ball, other wise you will be limiting yourself to shots that you know, and your position for next ball will suffers.


Best of luck.
 
clarkie39...Glad I could help! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
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You always read about people having "ahha" moment in Pool. It's when they finally "get it"...They get what they either have been reading about or been instructed on. I had one today thanks to Scott Lee. I read where Scott instructs students to slow down their backstroke... Really slow... No, I mean Sloooowwww....Well I spent an a couple hours on that specifically and my forward stroke improved and my follow thru is automatic. I finaaly got that feeling of truly "throwing" the cue stick thru the cueball. It feels like the tip is on the cueball forever. My grip is light and easy . It all came together that last half hour of practice.. Now can I repeat it ? Only God knows...But at least I know the feeling, and I know what to look for. It's actually a relief . Thanks Az billiard forum .. Thanks Scott Lee..
 
Slow back-stroke...I learned that early in life from golf...rushing the back-
swing is insane.
Doesn't mean that I haven't snatched the cue back under heat....
...but you just have to keep trying.
Good for Scott
 
I've had a lot of "ah ha" moments. They usually last for a session or two. :embarrassed2:

However, a smooth slow backstroke is a very good element for your stroke. Kudos on recognizing it.
 
It's funny that you used the word "slow" because my old coach would constantly hound at me that I needed to take it "easssyyy". Eventually I realized he said "easy" and not slow. It was my ah-ha moment for me. Love those!!! Keep up the good work!
Loren
 
"spent a couple hours on that"........"It all came together that last half hour of practice" --> so 90 minutes spent getting there and only 30 minutes being there. Your brain will remember the "getting there" more than the "being there" since you spent 3X as much time "getting there", if that makes sense.

How many of you have had one of those "aha" moments and think, I've got it? Only to come back the next and it's gone! Once you've got that feeling of being in-stroke, your practice session should go on as long as possible........preferably 2-3X longer than the warm up phase spent getting there. It's about that "brain/muscle memory thing". This was brought up in a previous thread titled "Bad Practice".



Not a Bad practice .. Bad practice is when nothing is accomplished. And no goal has been reached. Like I said I reached my goal.. . I'm a scratch golfer and I know how to practice effectively.. I spent two hours hitting dead straight shots. Pool is a hobby not a profession. The accomplishment will be there tomorrow . U gotta learn to keep things in perspective .
 
Congratulations!

You will have some more of those "moments" ahead of you. It's great that you got some real solid advice. Even better that it came from Mr. Lee!

SPF is your start on a path that will get you to a level of consistency that is often missing from a lot of us "normal" pool players. Keep seeking advice from Scott! Better yet, if you can, take a private lesson from him!

Now that you have focus on recognizing the key transition movement in your stroke, you can now key in on everything that happens afterwards to give you additional info for analysis. Does your cue still point at your intended target after finishing? Did you finish your stroke (did you follow through to your "normal" position - cue tip, cradle hand)? Did the sound of your stroke sound good? Are your eyes doing what they should, when they should? These are all things you can now focus on to further improve your stroke mechanics.

Have fun and again - congratulations!
 
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