Aiming B.S.

Aiming instruction has made good salesmen money, Dr. Dave Teachs how to aim for FREE.

Then you got the guy who come and goes to and from forum. Professing to turn you into a Super Pool Player with his aiming system. First Holy Grail was Perfect Aiming DVD, Second Holey Grail was Perfect Shift Aiming DVD.

JMHO if you have no Pool Basic Mastered, know how to Aim, is not going to make you consistent player, or great gambler.

Basic PoolBasics, and POOL IQ are building blocks to master. JMHO
 
More seriously, I think most beginner are correctly guessing where the cue ball must be when contacting the OB. But the hard part is keeping this image/contact point while posting yourself behind the CB and getting down the shot.
That is, for me, the only hard part of aiming. Visualising thats GB while walking around the table is pretty straightforward.

@jjohnson also I think you are confusing me with somebody else.
 
Ever wonder how musicians play in tune? Not the combo guys with their pushbutton guitars and keys but band and orchestra players. The term is intonation. It's a function of a lot of things not the least of which is getting your instrument to work in the first place. You may rely on the fingerings to get you in the ball park but you gotta get within a few hundredths of a % of the intended frequency or you're failing. Singers have it worse. Nothing to see. No frets, buttons, fingerings - just many years of rigorous rehearsal until your soul gets it.
So pool. You don't need to flow like Fred Astaire or soar like an eagle. MOF, you can take a year every shot. So, whay go all in on estimation? Not true? How come the best miss critical and often simple shots???
 
Mensabum said:
Contact points. Line em up and pull trigger. Adding anything else to the mix is unnecessary.
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You have just condensed what I am referring to in about 16 words. Actually just 6 words: "Line em up and pull trigger." But not as concise as Gorst: "I just see it." I can see an instructor now saying, "Line em up and pull trigger." How in the world is anyone going to learn how to aim from this advice? Okay. I'm just not done. I'm well done. About to be charred. Later. Bye...
 
Amaury said:
More seriously, I think most beginner are correctly guessing where the cue ball must be when contacting the OB. But the hard part is keeping this image/contact point while posting yourself behind the CB and getting down the shot.
That is, for me, the only hard part of aiming. Visualising thats GB while walking around the table is pretty straightforward.

@jjohnson also I think you are confusing me with somebody else.
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I think noobs can determine the shot correctly but are fooled when trying to SEE the shot. Parallax distortion is not your fairy god mother.
Ever see a carpenter aim and free hand every piece of stock through his expensive table saw?
 
jjohnson said:
Okay. Forget the ghost ball technique for determining the shot line. What aiming technique do you recommend? I don't think it matters because whatever is used, that cue ball must go from point A to point B consistently every time. And this requires accurate aiming in any and all cases. So, with your recommendation, tell us how to send the cue ball to make contact with the object ball to make the perfect hit consistently. I'm sure we would all like to know.
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I've posted it ad infinitum. Close to 4, 5 times even. :ROFLMAO: Look up CPG and CBL (these are my acronyms so may not be easy to find)
Or ask PJohnson (relative?) he has his own way with contact points.
 
straightline said:
Ever wonder how musicians play in tune? Not the combo guys with their pushbutton guitars and keys but band and orchestra players. The term is intonation. It's a function of a lot of things not the least of which is getting your instrument to work in the first place. You may rely on the fingerings to get you in the ball park but you gotta get within a few hundredths of a % of the intended frequency or you're failing. Singers have it worse. Nothing to see. No frets, buttons, fingerings - just many years of rigorous rehearsal until your soul gets it.
So pool. You don't need to flow like Fred Astaire or soar like an eagle. MOF, you can take a year every shot. So, whay go all in on estimation? Not true? How come the best miss critical and often simple shots???
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There are many reasons. How about stress, fatigue, distraction, intimidation, coercion, nerves, loss of perceptual continuity, low blood sugar, ...
If you have superior powers of visualization technique, ghost ball is not an estimation. It is precision.
 
straightline said:
I've posted it ad infinitum. Close to 4, 5 times even. :ROFLMAO: Look up CPG and CBL (these are my acronyms so may not be easy to find)
Or ask PJohnson (relative?) he has his own way with contact points.
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I sense that these, again, are how to align shots and not how to aim, which ultimately means execute a shot. But give me a day or so to find the time to find these references. Thanks. Later.
 
Mensabum said:
Contact points. Line em up and pull trigger. Adding anything else to the mix is unnecessary.
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Find the contact point on the object ball that is furthest away from the desired pocket.
Think about it.
Heard it first from Allison Fisher. Makes sense.

As far as HAMB?
Yup but don't practice lazy. Practice lazy and you will play lazy.
Get the bridge when you practice instead of moving the cue ball.
 
Please get this prattle out of the Main Forum. Is there not a specific forum created especially for all of those here that want to go on and on about the 18,000 different “aiming systems”? This subject was beaten to death long ago, and yet some of you continue to flog it. You either see it or you don’t. If you don’t, then join the “systems” people in the aiming conversation forum.
 
Everyones brains process information differently. I can't use the ghostball method and don't understand CTE. I am using a shaft aiming method and with this method i can aim precisely using side spin.
 
But you have to consider contact and or english throw too.
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The story is even worse. Forget english for a moment, cut induced throw varies with the speed of the cue ball for all cuts thinner than 5/8 of a cut: the faster the cue ball is traveling when it hits the OB, the less cut induced throw there is. Then topspin and backspin will reduce the amount of cut induced throw even more. So, before you even get to sidespin/english aiming is complicated.

Now let's talk about english. At least we know that inside english will add to the cut induced throw--because the spin on the cue ball is in the same direction as the cut--so you need to aim thinner when you use inside english. Except...as your thick cuts get thinner (7/8->3/4->5/8) and you arrive at a 1/2 ball hit, then inside english no longer creates more throw than cut induced throw alone. For 1/2 ball cuts and thinner, inside english starts producing less throw than cut induced throw alone. Whaaa?! Which aiming system accounts for that?? The person who invented your aiming system wasn't even aware of that!

Ghost ball aiming only works for balls close to the pocket because ghost ball aiming doesn't account for cut induced throw. Same for contact point geometry aiming. It's all "aiming bs".
 
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jjohnson said:
I saw a video that showed the instructor placing the cue ball at the center of the head string. Then his challenge was to shoot the cue ball through the spot at the foot of the table and make it bounce off the rail and come back through the spot and through the center of the head string where it was shot from. He said that most players can't do that.

I watched another video, I think it was straight pool 14:1. Thorsten Hohmann was about to take a break when he was asked how to make balls and run balls. He said when he gets back he'll tell us. He gets back and says it's simple. He just shoots for the ghost ball.

But in both cases no explanation or instruction on the technique of aiming was given. So in just a moment, when I'm through here, you can say I'm stupid or help me out and point me to a video where it is explained. I mean, if it is so obvious and easy to learn with perfect instruction, then why are most people unable to run balls. And why doesn't Efren or Shane or Dennis or Earl explain? Isn't there this brotherhood of sharing. Let me know. I'd sure like to never miss or rarely so I can run balls.

Here goes: Yes. The ghost ball. I can pick up the cue ball and place it against the object ball to align it so as to make the object ball in the pocket. But you have to consider contact and or english throw too. You need to not only aim the cue ball to make the ghost ball and subsequently the object ball but you have to deliver the cue ball with the precise action to get the position for the next shot.

So, I say these aiming techniques or tricks are b.s. because they never tell you how to do this. Care to try? I think it's a safe bet that you either can't or won't tell us. Come on, chare, man.
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People cannot run balls because they cannot position their body where it needs to be and make their stroking arm move accurately and consistently enough to hit the CB and OB where they wish.

Lou Figueroa
aiming is easy
the rest, not so much
 
7stud said:
Ghost ball aiming only works for balls close to the pocket because ghost ball aiming doesn't account for cut induced throw. Same for contact point geometry aiming. It's all "aiming bs".
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CPG is not bs. It is prepared by learning to account for the deviations in the OB accuracy. The idea is exact lines. It's not rocket science or worse, opposing arguments. It's as simple as intonation is for a musician.
 
jjohnson said:
You have just condensed what I am referring to in about 16 words. Actually just 6 words: "Line em up and pull trigger." But not as concise as Gorst: "I just see it." I can see an instructor now saying, "Line em up and pull trigger." How in the world is anyone going to learn how to aim from this advice? Okay. I'm just not done. I'm well done. About to be charred. Later. Bye...
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Yep. You're cooked.😉 If they can't figure that out, there's always corn hole.
 
Buy poolology by brian crist
It should offer what you are looking for
Thank me later
It teaches you how to figure out the shot and where to point your tip and targets
 
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