i watched some of the 8b big money tourney and the commentator said yubo had had surgery
Alex P vs Mick Hill in the Finals of a Chinese table 9 ball tournament
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i watched some of the 8b big money tourney and the commentator said yubo had had surgery
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Actual 'no shit' question: have any of these Chinese 8b/9b players done anything tournament-wise other than on their style tables? Reason i'm asking is that it looks to me like this IS a super-niche brand of pool. No one ever said it wasn't hard, just not entertaining to watch. SO: have ANY of these players placed high in any WNT or WPA-sanctioned 'regular' pool events? If this game is so tough shouldn't these cats be stealing on a regular pool table? My guess is that Gorst/SVB/Filler all would swim thru a mile of shit to play ANY of them ANY game on a standard 9ft box.
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Does anyone have a complete set of scoring rules? I believe I've seen additions of 1, 4, 5, 7 and 10. The 1 is for a foul, the others happened when someone pocketed the 9. (Maybe I'm wrong about the 5?)
As for watchability, no one here is the intended audience. Evidently the audience they get in China is large enough to finance the huge prize funds.
I hope they fix some of the goofier rules.
As for watchability, no one here is the intended audience. Evidently the audience they get in China is large enough to finance the huge prize funds.
I hope they fix some of the goofier rules.
Some of that prize fund is surely sourced from the 'party'. No way JOY is putting up that kind of loot and i just don't see enough adv/sponsorship to fund this. I could be all wet(won't be first time) but i'd bet pretty good that the 'sporting arm' of CCP is paying for a lot of this.
I had a very interesting conversation with someone who does business in China. Great steaming piles of business.
If you look at all the cue sport players in the world -- pool, carom, snooker, English 8-ball, pyramid, ... -- the majority of those players are on 9-foot Chinese tables. Let that settle in for a while. So far as I know, those tables did not exist 30 years ago. (Edit: they existed, but maybe only in China?)
Another thing to consider for Americans: In the recent World Snooker Championship, for the finals, which saw a Chinese player win, the viewer count in China was estimated at 150 million. 3 million people watched the final in the UK.
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I can see that. Its a numbers game pure-n-simple. I've read that upwards of 100MILLION Chinese play it and about 10mill. play it at least twice a week. I still think that some form of party/gov't backing is behind these events.
After coming back to this thread, I have to ask. Considering the prize money, where were some of the world's super elite 9 ball players? Was this tournament not advertised at all and it was just word of mouth?
Even with how tough these tables play and the obvious long nature of the tournament itself, being double elimination through everything, you would think some of the top 9 ballers would be there.
Even with how tough these tables play and the obvious long nature of the tournament itself, being double elimination through everything, you would think some of the top 9 ballers would be there.
IIRC there is a qualification process to get in the big finale. You don't just pay-n-play. Its a super-niche game and its always the Chinese regulars that dominate. Potts, Appleton and Melling have all done well at it. You need to play it a LOT to have any chance. They top-load the payouts really bad. JOY's FB page is best place for info. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093572650981
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This is not recent. This was commenting on his past. This was discussed before (in this thread I think, maybe another), as when someone brought it up, I was surprised none of my friends in SH had mentioned it. So I asked some people, who clarified that the reference was to his past. He entered this tournament and was knocked out. Can't remember who by, but I posted it earlier
EDIT: He bowed out to Yang Fan, 12:13 loss.
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A lot of them have in Asia. Snooker, American pool, carom, 235. A lot of the Chinese players don't travel often for numerous reasons; visas, finance, and the fact they make more money on the domestic circuit.
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They existed before, just not marketed or played in the same way it is now.
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I think there is definitely some creative selection. A lot of people here were begging for the KO brothers to go deep. The prevailing attitude here is American table is child's play.
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A break-and-run earns 10 points, a table-run 7 points, a victory 4 points, and an opponent’s foul 1 point. Of course, if there is multiple fouls, this adds up. Three foul is in play, so 5,6,7 can be attributed to games that are won with fouls. Three foul victory would total at 7.
This was actually the only boring thing in the whole tournament... the final... where Zhou Long had no possibility of beating Chu Bing Jie with 4 racks left, but they continued playing. I wasn't sure why. maximum points obtainable was 40, and he was well behind. I guess it's up to the opponent to concede in such instance, like snooker. Maybe he just wanted some more screen time. But I found it annoying/boring, mostly from the confusion trying to work out what was going on when I was waiting to see Chu Bing Jie awkwardly jump on the table and do a victory dance lol
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It’s the same for everybody….so the best player still wins.
Is it possible to get more fouls but not in a row? Like 2, then 2, then 2?
And I guess I was confused when it looked like there was a five score -- must have been with a foul.
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Actually, This makes a good point, and you are probably right!
Yes, it threw me a couple of times.