Those are most likely denizens of Buffalo's. Everybody in that joint will bet it up higher than giraffe balls. Mars lives in Mich. now that i think of it. Might be a SVB 'horse.
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Alex v. Fedor Uno Pocket, is this old?
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John Mars has been involved with Shane for a long time…even when Shane wants to bet his own, he’ll let John in.
jax_joe
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i think dennis plays heyball now, which is on the WPA side of pool politics. WPA european events pay peanuts..
speaking of heyball i don't think alex' venture into that has hurt his one pocket. i watched a bit of one of his matches there and he outmoved the opponent just like he does in 1p. i watched him play 10-ball yesterday and he outmoved ruslan, then almost did the same to filler
I don't think Alex practices/plays as much as people believe he does. He likes poker........a lot. Horses and poker have always been the downfall of many a player over the years. Those games are INSTANT ACTION unlike pool matches which take time to match up. If this game comes up, Fedor will have a great shot at winning.
Not a chance, a better cue ball than Efren no. When Efren was dominating DCC one pocket no one stood a chance.
I've lost money betting against Alex, and I said I would never bet against him again. Having that been stated, he's biting off more than he could chew with Fedor. If Alex played his top, top game, he would likely still be a slight underdog against Fedor.
All pool players believe they could muster up their best game if they really needed / wanted to. Of course, we know that's not reality.
Alex is playing very sharp. His mental game is strong as ever as well, and he got super lucky again(I have witnesses) and robbed me playing backgammon, short session we had fun!
He’s so hard to beat it’s crazy, I play better BG than he does, he knows it and still gets up and bets $200/point. I’ve played many many heads up $ matches over the last 10 years of backgammon. Alex is possibly the toughest gambler I’ve ever played BG with.
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Need some clarification. $200 a point is the base bet? And then cube?
That makes sense.
BG as he said.
Yes $200/pt for Alex , I had another $100/point on the side so $300/point for me.
Jacoby rule in effect, cube must be turned to activate gammons(double points on gammon and 3X on backgammons).
We also played “auto’s” which means if we roll the same number at the beginning of the game the cube turns to 2 before the game starts. We had 4 autos in a row which is rare but cranked up the stakes pretty good as the first double puts the cube on 4 or $800/game for Alex and $1200 for me.
Gammon on a 8 cube is 16 points or $3200 ($4800 for me
)for that game. Didn’t happen but was close one game. Lots of 8pt or $1600 games. Not high stakes but definitely mid stakes. $500+ is usually considered hi stakes BG
Pretty good size action
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sudocrushms
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BG is a lot of games in a session. The variance is huge.Wait, $1000/game isn't high stakes???
sudo <-- doesn't gamble
A game is usually 2 points, sometimes 4 points, with “autos” in a month there might be one 16pt game. I’ve had 1 32 point game in the last 10 years-I usually don’t play “auto’s”.
The other day when I played Alex I had $300/point in action. I was up 10 points, he had a match so we stopped while he played his match.
When we started back I was +10 points so $3000 in less than a hour I was -18points so that was 28 x 300 swing roughly $8000. Which is a rare thing in BG to have a net 30 point swing that fast. I quit. I could have went and got more $ or went on the wire for some but I wasn’t in the mood and paid off and quit with $300-$400 in my pocket.
When the swing is that big, against me usually I stop. Yes I had the best of it, yes I could have went for more $ or played longer. But I was just done for the day. I’ll play again next time.
Is that high stakes? Not sure, I suppose for some ppl it is, that’s a subjective thing. I’ve lost and won much more than that. And in that spot I’ve also kept playing. I just wasn’t in the frame of mind to that day-we were at Griffs.
Generally $500/pt is considered high stakes in BG. There’s no official number tho. $100-$200 is mid stakes. About 10 years ago there was a confirmed game for $1M a point in Beverly Hills. Andy Beal and Alec Gores played that game. I’ve seen $10,000/point action in Monaco at the tourney there.
Most I’ve ever played for was $1600/pt at Derby one year. I rarely play less than $25’s with one friend.
It’s like any action, water finds its own level.
20 +/- points is a normal session over 40 games in 5 hours. 30-40 point swings happens 15% of the time.
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sudocrushms
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That's a hell of a lot of money for people that don't gamble.
I don't just see a number, I see buying power. I equate every dollar to something I could be spending it on.
Me2
I put a value on everything I do. Even doing nothing has value as I rest my brain for the next go around. That’s value
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sudocrushms
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I don't get it (gambling as a whole), but none of our brains are wired the same. Would make for a pretty dull world if they were...
So if the cube hasn't been turned, and you gammon your opponent, it's just 1 point?
Ahh, Mr. Beal's name pops up again in regards to gambling. Many years ago, I was playing poker at the Bellagio, and the room was abuzz. I asked what everybody was whispering about, and I was told the poker room staff just got tipped $100k after a high roller session. Andy Beal was the whale. Andy eventually got the stakes raised to $30k-$60k Holdem heads up. He thought he could get the pros to play sub optimally at nose bleed stakes, but although only one pro at a time played heads up against Andy Beal, the pros all pooled their money to spread the risk. Andy Beal's back story is super interesting. Very smart guy. Someone wrote a book about the nose bleed Holdem sessions with Andy Beal: The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King: Inside the Richest Poker Game of All Time.
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