Allotted set time for 10-ball question

nathandumoulin

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I was recently working for CSI at the US Open in Vegas. The sets were race to 9, winner break, 10-ball. All sets were 2 hours long, with the exception of the final race, which was to 13.

95% of the sets finished on time, with the odd match running over the 2 hour mark. To compensate, they made a rule where beads were automatically added to the wire to speed up slower sets. There was some controversy over this, but I won't get into it since it's irrelevant to my post. What it does mean however, is that 2 hours is insufficient time for a race to 9 in 10-ball when slower players are at the table.

Now the WPC is currently going on, and the same race to 9 is being given 3 hours per match. From what I can tell, none of the matches are taking nearly this long. With 11 tables and a large field, some players aren't even getting one set in during the course of a full day.

What I'm getting at, is why is it always 2 or 3 hours even for a match? 2 hours seems too short since a small number of matches take too long, while 3 hours is an hour too long in most cases.

So wouldn't the logical thing be to make the sets 2.5 hours long? Most matches will finish before the 2 hour mark, and the extra half hour gives the slower sets time to finish up. There aren't enough tables for everyone to play at once, so players will still get a 2.5 hour break even if they're playing more matches on the losers side.

Or am I missing something here? Maybe Jay can clarify this for me.

PS. And yes, I realize that 2 hour matches were made to get more done in a day, however when pool starts at 11am or noon, it seems silly. Why can't this sport be like every other sport and start at normal times?
 
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I was recently working for CSI at the US Open in Vegas. The sets were race to 9, winner break, 10-ball. All sets were 2 hours long, with the exception of the final race, which was to 13.

95% of the sets finished on time, with the odd match running over the 2 hour mark. To compensate, they made a rule where beads were automatically added to the wire to speed up slower sets. There was some controversy over this, but I won't get into it since it's irrelevant to my post. What it does mean however, is that 2 hours is insufficient time for a race to 9 in 10-ball when slower players are at the table.

Now the WPC is currently going on, and the same race to 9 is being given 3 hours per match. From what I can tell, none of the matches are taking nearly this long. With 11 tables and a large field, some players aren't even getting one set in during the course of a full day.

What I'm getting at, is why is it always 2 or 3 hours even for a match? 2 hours seems too short since a small number of matches take too long, while 3 hours is an hour too long in most cases.

So wouldn't the logical thing be to make the sets 2.5 hours long? Most matches will finish before the 2 hour mark, and the extra half hour gives the slower sets time to finish up. There aren't enough tables for everyone to play at once, so players will still get a 2.5 hour break even if they're playing more matches on the losers side.

Or am I missing something here? Maybe Jay can clarify this for me.

PS. And yes, I realize that 2 hour matches were made to get more done in a day, however when pool starts at 11am or noon, it seems silly. Why can't this sport be like every other sport and start at normal times?


Nathan,

I have noticed local TD's noting the time each match finished. They then allot tables back and forth so that the tables with fast players tend to get slow players next and vice-versa after awhile. It helps keep the brackets running pretty even with minimum wait times. There isn't any way I know of to allow for unusual matches where two players take far longer than usual but knowing the pace of most players in the tournament can help a lot if the TD chooses to do things this way.

Shot clocks, adding games, none of these things seem like perfect solutions. I don't have an answer myself, I guess that is why the TD's make the big bucks!

Hu
 
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