Am I wrong?

[Amanda Rae]

So ive never looked into a aiming system but I suppose we all have one.

This is what I think I do so please feel free to let me know what you think.

when i line up a slight cut shot into the top left corner ill find my contact point and lets say i need to use inside english (left) ill aim a slight amount extra to the left to compensate for the english of the shot how much is determined by feel i suppose. Or if im using outside english on the same shot to run a couple rails then ill aim a little extra to the right.

Is this completely off base for your guys aiming system?

 

[Ralph Kramden]

So ive never looked into a aiming system but I suppose we all have one.

This is what I think I do so please feel free to let me know what you think.

when i line up a slight cut shot into the top left corner ill find my contact point and lets say i need to use inside english (left) ill aim a slight amount extra to the left to compensate for the english of the shot how much is determined by feel i suppose. Or if im using outside english on the same shot to run a couple rails then ill aim a little extra to the right.

Is this completely off base for your guys aiming system?

You may get a lot of different opinions. IMHO you are off base. Aim a little thicker if using inside, depending on the speed.
Aim thicker on the OB when using inside english, aim at the OB contact point or a little thinner when using outside english.

 

[randyg]

I agree with Ralph here.

I also think that what you are doing is way tooooo much for the brain.

randyg

 

[FranCrimi]

So ive never looked into a aiming system but I suppose we all have one.

This is what I think I do so please feel free to let me know what you think.

when i line up a slight cut shot into the top left corner ill find my contact point and lets say i need to use inside english (left) ill aim a slight amount extra to the left to compensate for the english of the shot how much is determined by feel i suppose. Or if im using outside english on the same shot to run a couple rails then ill aim a little extra to the right.

Is this completely off base for your guys aiming system?

That's the right idea. You're right about feeling the right amount of compensation. Just remember that the cb will initially squirt out to the right when you use left and once it stops sliding, it will start to swerve back the opposite way. So in some cases you hardly have to compensate at all, and in other cases you will have to compensate more, especially if you strike the cb hard and it squirts a longer way in the opposite direction.

There's more to it, of course, but that's a good place to start.

 

[FranCrimi]

You may get a lot of different opinions. IMHO you are off base. Aim a little thicker if using inside, depending on the speed.
Aim thicker on the OB when using inside english, aim at the OB contact point or a little thinner when using outside english.

That's what she wrote.

 

[Ralph Kramden]

That's what she wrote.

I really don't think that's what she wrote.....

The way I interpreted what she wrote was with a left cut, using inside, she would aim to cut the OB a slight amount extra further left.
Then she wrote if she used outside english on the same shot, she would aim a little extra to the right....I think she meant the OB cut.

When she said 'aiming', does it mean aim the CB to hit the OB, or aim the cut shot to actually pocket the OB? I think it was the latter.

 

[Amanda Rae]

I really don't think that's what she wrote.....

The way I interpreted what she wrote was with a left cut, using inside, she would aim to cut the OB a slight amount extra further left.
Then she wrote if she used outside english on the same shot, she would aim a little extra to the right....I think she meant the OB cut.

When she said 'aiming', does it mean aim the CB to hit the OB, or aim the cut shot to actually pocket the OB? I think it was the latter.

where i aim at the object ball.

ill adjust my contact point mostly subconsciously, i really dont get methodical while im playing i was just trying to put into words what i think i use as a aiming system.

thanks everyone:thumbup:

 

[8pack]

Your kinda of rite.Besides our shaft the cut angle has a lot to do with where your going to aim.In some cases the actual.contact point is the aiming line.(know need to aim thicker).

Most of the time I aim thick on the shot,inside and outside.But there are times when you will aim to over cut for both.

Key factors on where you aim all depend on speed and distance.


Anthony

 

[Ralph Kramden]

where i aim at the object ball.

ill adjust my contact point mostly subconsciously, i really dont get methodical while im playing i was just trying to put into words what i think i use as a aiming system.

thanks everyone:thumbup:

Amanda... The exact aim point changes with both spin and speed. With a firm stroke what I said in post #2 holds fairly true.
Softer strokes and spin effect the aim point. The CB squirts away from the side it's hit. It won't swerve back with a level cue.

I thought you were trying to correct the pocket angles when applying english. The angle does change as the CB squirts over.

Luck to you.... Carl

 

[CJ Wiley]

the FINAL TARGET as your visual barometer for using english.

So ive never looked into a aiming system but I suppose we all have one.

This is what I think I do so please feel free to let me know what you think.

when i line up a slight cut shot into the top left corner ill find my contact point and lets say i need to use inside english (left) ill aim a slight amount extra to the left to compensate for the english of the shot how much is determined by feel i suppose. Or if im using outside english on the same shot to run a couple rails then ill aim a little extra to the right.

Is this completely off base for your guys aiming system?

Your process will work, however, it's not ideal. The final target in pocket billiards is the pocket and the object ball is a secondary target (effected by where you hit the cue ball and how you're aligned to the object ball). The PRIMARY TARGET is where you hit the cue ball with your TIP.....the object is to connect where you hit the cue ball to where the object ball hits the pocket.......the object all is basically a "MIRROR" or reflection.

With this being said it's better to adjust for your english or deflection by aligning to hit different parts of the pocket. This will require you to hit the object ball slightly different (of course) however, I've found through many hours of competition that there's several reasons to use the FINAL TARGET as your visual barometer for using english.

This will simply take "Trial and Error" and there's no short cut to this process. If you over-cut a shot, set it up and shoot it again and be aware of how it effects object ball/ pocket connection......if you under-cut a shot, set it up and do the same thing. Once you hit the center of the pocket go to another shot....DO NOT shoot the same shot again once you make it connect to the center....your job is done on that shot, don't try to improve on perfection, just be satisfied that you programmed the positive info. into you mind for future reference.

"Begin with the end in Mind" .... the end result is the ball going into the pocket, not the cue ball hitting the object ball. This may seem similar, but on closer investigation you'll find that they're not. 'The Game is the Teacher'

 

[Pidge]

CJ mentioned setting up shots again, and again until you get the result you are after. This is solid advice. Once you hit a shot perfectly, move on to the next. Its amazing how you will remember how you lined up, where you hit the CB, what speed you hit it etc, so hitting a perfect shot, then a bad one then a good one, then a perfect one, then a good one...has you remembering things that you don't want to remember. Once you hit a perfect shot, move on.

There are some methods that claim to calculate for throw and squirt out there, mainly back hand english (BHE) and front hand english (FHE). Even a mixture of the 2 is claimed to work. Too much effort and thinking is involved for my liking though, and it isn't the same for every cue or person.

What I do is first find the line the CB must travel to pocket the ball with a centre ball hit. Then I think about the speed I need to hit (this part is very important for judging how far I offset my cue to the aim line).
Next I set my feet up, then look at the part of the CB I want to hit. I keep one eye on this, and one eye on centre CB as I drop down to the shot. My bridge is placed very slightly to the side of the CB I'm hitting and my 'vision centre' is placed as it would be for a centre ball hit. This let's me judge if the CB will travel along the shot line or not, or, if it looks right or wrong.

But yes, using inside english you will have to aim thicker, and outside english a little thinner. This isn't always true though. Some shots will require you to aim thicker when using outside. I've not really noticed this for inside so much, but it does come up so often.