Amazing pool shots from Efren Reyes
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Thanks for the link to the video and those shots are one of the reasons Efren has always been my favorite pro player to watch. I have over a hundred accu-stats matches and my favorites are the matches with Efren playing. He's one of the nicest guys you will meet and IMO the best that's ever played the game.
James
Thanks for the link to the video and those shots are one of the reasons Efren has always been my favorite pro player to watch. I have over a hundred accu-stats matches and my favorites are the matches with Efren playing. He's one of the nicest guys you will meet and IMO the best that's ever played the game.
James
I set it up and it's just a high ball, nothing speacial, about a tip, If he would have hit the shot with a lil less speed and high right spin the 9 would have fell. He could have been going for the 9, no way to know.. but I know for sure, without a doubt, you do not hit draw on that shot, draw will loop around off the rail under certain conditions but this isnt one of them.
Im speaking of the shot @ 2:28 I didnt feel the need to watch anymore because I felt that was the shot being described.
arian dacongan, no offense bro, but I cant see draw for that shot... If you can do it, thats great, for me, Im striking the ball as described and having no problems.
SPINDOKTOR
Also the reason you dont use any side is because on that shot the cue ball naturaly gains a lil side, right if you were to strike the cue ball.. so it wants to spin up table between the two balls.
Im speaking of the shot @ 2:28 I didnt feel the need to watch anymore because I felt that was the shot being described.
arian dacongan, no offense bro, but I cant see draw for that shot... If you can do it, thats great, for me, Im striking the ball as described and having no problems.
SPINDOKTOR
Also the reason you dont use any side is because on that shot the cue ball naturaly gains a lil side, right if you were to strike the cue ball.. so it wants to spin up table between the two balls.
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arian dacongan said:
Lol. No offense meant, I was just joking. I think I actually do know the shot you're talking about, but it's not hit with draw, it only looks that way. The tip is swiped up across the cueball at the last second to create follow - Bottom right becomes top left. Filipino hustler trick.
here is about the same stroke needed, Im sure most of us know this trick shot, the one is frozen to the rail and you force it into the side, the cue ball does a big loop and pockets the 9... you can also do this shot with draw, go 3 rails and pocket a ball in the oposite corner of the 9.
SPINDOKTOR
David Beck said:
you can never get the result what reyes did on that shot putting all the tops you'll wanna put on the cue ball....
you have to forced-throw the cue ball with a lot of english to achieve that result.....top will never do that...
some tips: ( for those that does not know this shot--this worth to some a lifetime and would never learn this shot)...did you ever remember in your beginners days where you try to draw the cue ball and hit it on the bottom but instead of the Cb going back it went forward...well, it's the same thing only thing is you are deliberately doing it and applying extreme english- either left or right- whichever effect you're trying to achieve...
...yes you can make the cue ball follow even though you seem to be drawing...
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Renegade said:
it did,,,but it stayed up there for awhile and made many countries worry as to where it's going to fall...and that's how it came about....
arian dacongan said:you can never get the result what reyes did on that shot putting all the tops you'll wanna put on the cue ball....
you have to forced-throw the cue ball with a lot of english to achieve that result.....top will never do that...
some tips: ( for those that does not know this shot--this worth to some a lifetime and would never learn this shot)...did you ever remember in your beginners days where you try to draw the cue ball and hit it on the bottom but instead of the Cb going back it went forward...well, it's the same thing only thing is you are deliberately doing it and applying extreme english- either left or right- whichever effect you're trying to achieve...
...yes you can make the cue ball follow even though you seem to be drawing...
I learned this shot when I was about 10, jack up hit a little below center, bounce the cueball through the 8 to the rail and the low helps the cueball catch on the side rail to come back for the nine. That's the only way I know to get low follow. Is this anything like what you are describing?
unknownpro
cuetechasaurus said:
Most tournaments are played on brand new cloth, the rail slips easily so the cueball doesn't come off the rail with nearly as much speed and a lot more follow is left on it, so the shot becomes far easier to control.
unknownpro
Just had to chime in - pause the video at exactly 2:26 right when Efren pauses his cue tip at the cueball. Look at the shadow of his shaft in relation to the cue ball; you can tell that he's aiming for an above center hit. Whether or not he uses any left or right English is a little tougher to tell, but to me it looks like a high center ball.
arian dacongan said:you can never get the result what reyes did on that shot putting all the tops you'll wanna put on the cue ball....
you have to forced-throw the cue ball with a lot of english to achieve that result.....top will never do that...
some tips: ( for those that does not know this shot--this worth to some a lifetime and would never learn this shot)...did you ever remember in your beginners days where you try to draw the cue ball and hit it on the bottom but instead of the Cb going back it went forward...well, it's the same thing only thing is you are deliberately doing it and applying extreme english- either left or right- whichever effect you're trying to achieve...
...yes you can make the cue ball follow even though you seem to be drawing...
This probably the shot you're talking about Arian. Shooting the CB with low right
english (4 o'clock) and at full speed will make the CB force follow and curve.
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Or you could also end up like this. It really depends on how sweet or powerful
you stroke is. I've seen funny things happen on a CB and Efren said he always
learns something new watching bangers play, he probably learned it from a
clueless banger like me!
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Sorry guys, Efren shot it with inside and a little low english, and meant to come down to the end rail for shape in the side or corner pocket, not hitting the eight. He even lines it up that way before the shot. He overcuts the ball (but still makes it) and comes too far towards the eight and risks a scratch in the side pocket by hitting the eight. Not to take anything away from the great man, but I'm sure he would agree that he would never intentionally hit the object ball that way (for position) unless it was frozen near the side pocket, e.g.
Johnny was right when he stated after the shot, that Efren used inside or reverse english. When he over cut the ball though, he risked a scratch or a bad roll on the kiss. Not like Efren.
I guess if the question is of english, it's probably 5 o'clock that turns into a natural roll after a few feet with the right english still on it.
Danny K
Johnny was right when he stated after the shot, that Efren used inside or reverse english. When he over cut the ball though, he risked a scratch or a bad roll on the kiss. Not like Efren.
I guess if the question is of english, it's probably 5 o'clock that turns into a natural roll after a few feet with the right english still on it.
Danny K
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Danny Kuykendal said:
Danny, lets say your right, cant do it with a tip of top huh? hmm.. do I smell a wager? anyone? I need a new case, I want a John Barton, he already knows what I want, who's gonna volenteer to pay for it?
SPINDOKTOR
Maybe I'm on the same page as everyone? The cut on the six in the corner? I edited my post to reflect the seven instead of the eight. I really don't think Efren intended on hitting the seven- too risky and a possible chance of a scratch or missed position. By using a little low and right hand english he would have been able to slow the cue ball down and leave it underneath the seven, for the corner or side.
Danny K
Danny K
Danny Kuykendal said:
They were talking about a different one... the one where the 6, 7, 8, and 9 are all on the table, and he shoots the 6 in what we see as the lower-left corner.
The one you were referring to only had three balls on the table, yeah? He cuts the 6 into the upper-right corner and bumps into the dark ball (7 or 8) near the long cushion. On that one, it did look like low-right.
delete. Sorry, wrong shot.
gopi-1 said:
Or you could also end up like this. It really depends on how sweet or powerful
you stroke is. I've seen funny things happen on a CB and Efren said he always
learns something new watching bangers play, he probably learned it from a
clueless banger like me!
Are you talking about elevating your bridge real high on your fingers, and elevating the back end of your cue, so that you are putting follow on the cueball, but from an elevated plane, so you are hitting downwards on the cueball? Is that what you guys mean by hitting high ball draw? I know these shots in the diagram here, I can do them. Let me see if that's how I make them.