Analyze my Stroke

I am no expert, but as already mentioned, it looks like your grip is too far forward and you were getting up out of your stance before making contact with the cueball.

About 5 months ago I did as you, posted a video of this nature. While I received a lot of positive feedback, nothing helped more that seeing a professional BCA certified instructor.

I would suggest correcting what you can based on the replies and re-video tape yourself and compare them. If there is little to no change, I would highly recommend seeing an instructor......it did wonders for my stroke and game.

Good luck,
Mattman
 
Not bad...

Jon

You've got a pretty good stroke there. The problem we viewers have is it looks like you are playing the same shot over and over...lol for more than a few minutes...I'm sure we could see more if we saw different angles etc.

I agree with others here who mention that it looks like you're on your way to the bar to order your lemonade before you finish your stroke. Imo it's partly because you are shooting from the same spot repeatedly and maybe getting a bit lackadaisical.

Sometimes your grip is forward, sometimes back...can't figure why because we can't see the shots...you probably have good reason for the changes.

I'm not crazy about the fairly long distance between your bridge hand and the cue ball...but many strong players have that long bridge. My hunch is that a shorter distance would tighten your game. And my hunch is that is your biggest issue - a general tightening of your game. I'm guessing that you work hard at your game but could put more effort into it...that you don't try your best every shot. But then I'm relying mostly on psychic ability here I guess since I've only seen one shot really lol.

It seems that you have a nice little hesitation before striking the cue ball and I like that. But I'm not sure that you've made a study of it and really made it a strong weapon in your arsenal.

In the end...you can play as well as your desire takes you...you have the tools...and the wild 8 from me lol...peace...

Mike
 
jon21588 said:
Well I made a video of myself shooting. I shot 15 shots. ...
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If you go to page 17 of the "BCA Recognized Instructor Course Outline" at http://www.sfbilliards.com/richandout.pdf you will get some other possible camera positions. The one you chose is OK for seeing some things, but not so good for others.

About 5 times as much elbow drop as I would like to see and too much body motion before the hit. Be still; minimize motion.
 
Well I just got back in from Grenada, MS. I played for about an hour on the 9' diamond they have there. I didn't do any serious shooting. Mainly because I had to take my uncle who acts like a three year old. We played a few games and just had fun. I think I'm about to start all over. I've recently been shooting with a predator 314, but i want to go with a regular shaft. I'm working on getting a Schmelke sneaky pete. I've been shooting with my dad's old Schon. I think it has a crack or something in it. It makes an awful noise and this gets to my head. I think if I start over when I get the Schmelke, I'll do better. I play everyday, anywhere from 1-8 hours. There isn't a 9' table within 80 miles of me. I've been trying to talk the owner of the bar(who happens to be my cousin) to get a 9' in there. He won't do it. I'm going to work on all of this great info in the next month or so and get back with y'all. Hopefully my progress will be decent. This time I will have a different camera angle.

So, in conclusion:

Shorten Bridge
Grip Arm Perpendicular
No Elbow Movement
Pause in Backstroke
Slow Down Getting Into Stance
Get A New Stance
Stay Down On Shots
Chalking (Even though I USUALLY chalk before every shot)

Well I guess my days are going to be full for the next few weeks. Thanks for the help guys, all posts are greatly appreciated.
 
I'd like to see what the cueball is doing off the shots and see your follow-through. When I was younger and wanted to tell how good a person played, I didn't care about their elbows/aiming/footwork etc... I wanted to see how the cueball reacted and how easily they got the english needed for proper shape. The best hustlers had some of the worst *looking* strokes.

One thing I'd do, is get off the bar table and open up your stroke on a 9' table if possible. You'll never get the powerhouse stroke only practicing on a bar table. I don't see anything wrong with the long stroke, look at corey, shane, earl etc... As you get older, that stroke will shorten up, trust me.

You are raising up on the last stroke so I'd try to stay down until the cueball is on the way and make sure you are following through on all shots if possible. Also, your stroke looks almost a little like a robot. Try to get it more smooth and try your soft strokes to get on shots. For example, try drawing the cueball as soft as possible the length of the table. Once you reach a certain point, hitting the cueball too hard to get shape will cause errors IMO so try to learn how to get the english without having to kill the cueball.

Other than that, I'd try to get some different camera angles as suggested.
 
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