Another 'really' long story..(my favorite)

I met Whitey in the summer of either 1964 or 1965 in Mergard's in Cincinnati. I would have been twenty years old at the time. He was kind enough to spend nearly the entire summer there.

On hustling: Mergard's had a bar, a very nice one. It was a classy place. Donny Anderson managed an attached night club. Joey Spaeth played there regularly. A rack man, named Baker, in a starched white coat cleaned the tables and clocked players in and out. I was once introduced to Leo Durocher in this room when the Dodgers were playing the Reds in the evening. He wore a suit. So did a lot of the players who hung out in the room, including the memorable Tom Smith, the octogenarian player. Clem Metz was sometimes seen in the room. Whitey appeared and sat at the bar for about four or five nights drinking beer. He never made a move towards the pool tables. After the last night, Whitey got down from his bar stool and went up to the worst player in the room who would make a wager and asked him if he would like to play some eight ball. He had "clocked" every player in the room and went right up the ladder from first worst to second worst to third worst and on up the scale.

On the dog: it seemed to be a nice animal. It was a German shepherd which behaved itself well. Some of the Mergard's guys used to give it treats.

On Whitey's style: The man was the first person I ever saw who was really obviously a master of the game. He bridged so close to the cue ball that the edge of the cue ball was almost within the extension of his fingers. He gave an exhibition at a different establishment. At the end he played some trick shots. I said to him that the word was that he could run the numbered balls on a snooker table in sequence without touching a rail. I asked him to do it. He said that he wasn't sure he could because it was actually easier to do on a snooker table than on a pool table! Then he set up the balls on a pool table and did it twice. (Getting to the seven ball near the bottom rail without touching it is the tricky part!)

On the bite, advanced: Whitey had a Svengali or Rasputin effect upon some young people. There was a young man (not myself) who fell under this spell, and the young man came from a rather good family. (As I say, Mergard's was no dump.) Whitey drove a jalopy of a car. One day it appeared with a brand new set of tires on it. The story in the room was that this kid had invited Whitey out to his family's home and that when the boy's father had seen the worn out tires on Whitey's car he was horrified that his precious son was riding around in a car that was so unsafe. The father called a tire store and told them that a man would be bringing a car in for a new set of tires and they should just ring them up on his (the father's) account. I don't know whether this is true, but it was the report.

On the bite, inoculaton. After Whitey had been in town about three weeks, an older player named Garland Hutchison walked in. He had been out of town. He came over to me and said, "Do you know this guy they call 'Whitey?'" I said I did. He told me to point him out. As soon as I showed Garland who was Whitey, Garland walked up to Whitey, greeted him by name, and pressed a five dollar bill into his hand, which Whitey took without any question or hesitation. Garland then walked back to me and said, "Now he can't borrow any more money from me until he pays that back. That's how you get off easy."
 
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I met Whitey in the summer of either 1964 or 1965 in Mergard's in Cincinnati. I would have been twenty years old at the time. He was kind enough to spend nearly the entire summer there.

On the dog: it seemed to be a nice animal. It was a German shepherd which behaved itself well. Some of the Mergard's guys used to give it treats.

Sir, you were obviously very young and impressionable !..And yes, Whitey's dogs, were always well behaved...It was what he would "DO" to the poor dumb animal's, (if the bet was right) that made him the lowest person I ever encountered ! :frown:

SJD
 
I met Whitey in the summer of either 1964 or 1965 in Mergard's in Cincinnati. I would have been twenty years old at the time. He was kind enough to spend nearly the entire summer there.

On hustling: Mergard's had a bar, a very nice one. It was a classy place. Donny Anderson managed an attached night club. Joey Spaeth played there regularly. A rack man, named Baker, in a starched white coat cleaned the tables and clocked players in and out. I was once introduced to Leo Durocher in this room when the Dodgers were playing the Reds in the evening. He wore a suit. So did a lot of the players who hung out in the room, including the memorable Tom Smith, the octogenarian player. Clem Metz was sometimes seen in the room. Whitey appeared and sat at the bar for about four or five nights drinking beer. He never made a move towards the pool tables. After the last night, Whitey got down from his bar stool and went up to the worst player in the room who would make a wager and asked him if he would like to play some eight ball. He had "clocked" every player in the room and went right up the ladder from first worst to second worst to third worst and on up the scale.

On the dog: it seemed to be a nice animal. It was a German shepherd which behaved itself well. Some of the Mergard's guys used to give it treats.

On Whitey's style: The man was the first person I ever saw who was really obviously a master of the game. He bridged so close to the cue ball that the edge of the cue ball was almost within the extension of his fingers. He gave an exhibition at a different establishment. At the end he played some trick shots. I said to him that the word was that he could run the numbered balls on a snooker table in sequence without touching a rail. I asked him to do it. He said that he wasn't sure he could because it was actually easier to do on a snooker table than on a pool table! Then he set up the balls on a pool table and did it twice. (Getting to the seven ball near the bottom rail without touching it is the tricky part!)

On the bite, advanced: Whitey had a Svengali or Rasputin effect upon some young people. There was a young man (not myself) who fell under this spell, and the young man came from a rather good family. (As I say, Mergard's was no dump.) Whitey drove a jalopy of a car. One day it appeared with a brand new set of tires on it. The story in the room was that this kid had invited Whitey out to his family's home and that when the boy's father had seen the worn out tires on Whitey's car he was horrified that his precious son was riding around in a car that was so unsafe. The father called a tire store and told them that a man would be bringing a car in for a new set of tires and they should just ring them up on his (the father's) account. I don't know whether this is true, but it was the report.

On the bite, inoculaton. After Whitey had been in town about three weeks, an older player named Garland Hutchison walked in. He had been out of town. He came over to me and said, "Do you know this guy they call 'Whitey?'" I said I did. He told me to point him out. As soon as I showed Garland who was Whitey, Garland walked up to Whitey, greeted him by name, and pressed a five dollar bill into his hand, which Whitey took without any question or hesitation. Garland then walked back to me and said, "Now he can't borrow any more money from me until he pays that back. That's how you get off easy."

That last paragraph was priceless...Garland's approach with dealing with Whitey bordering on genius!
 
If I were naming these stories, this one might be titled…"Adventures with Detroit Whitey"...Whitey being Eddie Beauchene, who, along with Cornbread Red, turned Detroit into one of the greatest high dollar pool action cities EVER !.. There are few names more recognizable in the nether world of 'pool hustling' than Whitey !...He would be a unique individual in any scenario, in the pool world, I guess you would call him an "icon" !

Detroit Whitey, was the epitome of the conniving, take no prisoners, type of con man that most consider a hard core hustler to be... The stories surrounding him, border on the unbelievable, but believe it or not, most of them are true ! (up to, and including, 'selling his kids' !!!)..I do not believe there is ANYTHING Whitey wouldn’t do for money...The more I got to know him, the more I came to believe, that very early on in his life, he had made a pact with the devil, and he certainly managed to keep it...:embarrassed2:

I first met Whitey, in the late 50's, in Salt Lake City... I was an an established pool player with some success by then, but still had a LOT to learn..However, I had no fear of anyone !..My first session with him, was a grueling, all night 9-ball session, during which his experience, overcame my youth...Fortunately, he hung around long enough for me to get even, and then some !..He seemed like a decent enough guy, and with his smiling con, he was not a whiner when he finally got broke...So I half-way befriended him, and even tried to help him make a few bucks, to get back on his feet.

He put the bite on every ‘bitable’ person in the pool room, (including me) and I did not find out his true character, until I found out one of the scores I had given him money and sent him out on, turned out to be very lucrative, like about $1000...This was probably about $950 more than Whitey had hit town with !..So, in the dead of night, he slipped out of the room I was letting him stay in at my house, and split town..Without even a phone call to say ‘Thanks’..:(

I did not see Whitey again, until several years later, after I had moved to California...I settled in San Jose, and on a rare trip to LA, I went into the old downtown joint, on 4th st., and lo and behold, there sits Whitey, sweating a game... After telling him what I thought of his rotten, SLC move, he laid a hardship story on me, that almost had me feeling sorry for him again... But, at least I had a better idea of what I was dealing with..So, we kind of hooked up, and started hitting the bars, in downtown LA..:eek:

I was never a great fan of bar hustling, (especially in downtown LA) but it was pretty obvious Whitey was in his element...One guy he beat out of a few bucks, pulled a knife on him, and he showed no fear whatsoever !..With only a pool table separating them, Whitey dared him to come on, and said he would shove that knife right up his ass !...The guy backed down, and split from the joint...I thought for a minute, Whitey, (who had no knife, or gun) was going to chase him down !

I had to get back to San Jose and Whitey wanted to ride up there with me..I told him I had a job, and would not be able to spend any time hustling pool with him. Plus, I knew he didn’t have enough money for food and a room, so we bid adieu !…I was finally starting to get some ‘smarts’!

A year or so after that, my wife and I had to go to my grandma’s funeral in Detroit... I had a spare evening to kill, so I wandered into the old “Rathole” pool room, near downtown on Woodward, just to see what was going on. (the famous 'Rac Cue Club’ was in the far distant future at that time).. Lo and behold there sits Whitey !..He was the only one in the joint that knew me, and he gave me the ‘office’ to meet him in the john.

First question,”Ya got any money kid” ?.. I told him I had a few hundred. (I actually had a lot more, but as I said, I was getting smarter)..He told me to get a table, and hit a few balls around…He said there would be a guy coming in soon, who would go off real good...“He plays a little, but you should beat him ‘easy’, I’ll steer him into you...You can’t miss him, he’s got wavy red hair, and talks in a kinda loud hillbilly drawl”.

That was the first time I saw (or even heard of) “Cornbread Red”. I’m sure Whitey called him down there, and I saw him pointing me out to him.. Red sidled up to me, and asked me if I was “lookin' ta play some” !..I said "Yeah, I’ll play some cheap nine ball" !..Red said, “Whad’ya all call cheap”. I said, "$5 or 10 a game"...Red said “Nah, I’ll play some for $20”…I said OK..flip it !

After a little see-sawing, I soon saw I had no room to stall with this guy. I did eventually manage to get 3 or 4 games up on him. During that time, I overheard him muttering to Whitey..”I thought you said this dang kid didn’t play too good” ?..I’m pretty sure Whitey was just looking for a ‘jelly’, from whoever came out winner !..Long story short, Red saw he had a real grind on his hands, to try and get even. So he tried to move me to the snooker table... I said the only game I played there, was golf. (which it was) He passed on the golf, so we agreed to play some $5/10 pay ball..After about an hour or so, he got most of his money back.

I had told him I couldn’t play too long when we started, as I really did have an early flight home !..He was cool about it, we shook hands, and said we’d play again some time... And we did..but not ‘til about 35 years later, in a small LA tournament.. I won the tournament match, and we played some head-up $100 one pocket afterwards...Red got emptied out, but he took it like a gentleman... We parted on a pretty good note, and I invited him to come to Phoenix, if he wanted to play some more.. He did stop through a few weeks later, on his way home, with a backer in tow...We had another long one pocket session,...same end result !

Back to Whitey… I did not see him again, until quite a few years later...I was with my wife, on our way to visit our son in Placerville, Ca...We stopped for lunch in the small town of Folsum...There, on the window of the café, was a colorful flyer proclaiming that "World Champion Pool Player, Detroit Whitey”…Would be giving an exhibition that evening, at a local hardware store in town !

I guess curiosity got the best of me, and I drove by the hardware store to check it out... Sure enough, there was a new Gold Crown table in the entryway to the store, and inside sat our hero, just chilling out... He was minding the store for the owner, who he he introduced me to, when he came back from lunch. Apparently the owner was a real pool nut, and Whitey had got him to rent the table, so he could put on a few shows.

After about a 6-8 day visit with my son, we headed back home, and stopped again in Folsom... Just for kicks, I stopped by the hardware store... I noticed the pool table was gone, and as soon as the owner spotted me..He jumped up and started screaming “Where is he ? Where is that SOB” ! After a little convincing, that I was just a casual acquaintance of Whitey, and had no idea where he was, he told me what had transpired, in only ONE week !

It seems Whitey had gained his confidence, enough to let him run the store while he and his wife took a short vacation to Seattle ! He didn’t need to say much more, but the poor bastard felt the need to elaborate. It seems Whitey not only absconded with every dime the place took in, he also sold expensive items (power tools, compressors, etc.) for like half off !..The poor guy had not even finished an inventory to determine how much was gone ! I’m sure it was a VERY expensive vacation !.. I tip-toed out the door, with my most profound sympathy...That was the last time I saw Whitey.. It is hard to believe he may still be alive ??? :cool:

SJD

PS..I have a few more stories about Whitey, that are NOT fit for print on a public forum...But, this should count as three stories !...Hope you enjoyed them ! ;)

Dick, you're truly a great story teller and your pool game was once as good as your stories, spot on, and top notch. I would love nothing more than to read other stories from the past, providing the story teller's are as informed and colorful as you.

Bill Incardona
 
Dick, you're truly a great story teller and your pool game was once as good as your stories, spot on, and top notch. I would love nothing more than to read other stories from the past, providing the story teller's are as informed and colorful as you.

Bill Incardona

Thanks Bill !...I'm trying to put a story together, about some of my 'adventures' with Jack Cooney !..I gotta be careful to be real accurate though, as I'm sure Jack and Barbra are still alive and well ! :p..In fact, I saw them a few yrs. ago, (along with you) when I was up in Vegas with Alfie ! ;)

Cheers..Dick
 
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Just a coincidence, has anyone every heard of Bill Duggan from OK? He staked Matlock against Larry Hubbart in OK City also against Buddy Hall and Omaha John a few times.

Yes I was talking about the Bill Duggan in Oklahoma,he's 84 and plays gin at Magoo's in Tulsa everyday.He looks same as he did 30 years ago.
 
Thanks SJD

Like most others, I gladly read these old stories of pooldom's past......
It's one of the main attractions on the AZB forums for me.....I loved to read that whole thread about the Rack in Detroit....I heard about it too, firsthand from an old acquaintance, Dave Piona.....(RIP) .....Thanks to SJD for his stories, and also to Jay, whose 2nd book I am waiting for.....All you old sharks and road hustlers, please keep the stories coming!
 
What else is new ?

Yes I was talking about the Bill Duggan in Oklahoma,he's 84 and plays gin at Magoo's in Tulsa everyday.He looks same as he did 30 years ago.

Sorry Rusty..Coincidence about the last name I guess !..I thought maybe you were from Detroit...I don't recall knowing the 'Duggan' you are refering too, or I may not have known his last name ! :sorry:
 
Whitey was In dallas and a kinda buddy of mine "George McGann" gave whitey some money to go to this action spot. Whitey went there and took down the cash. He told George he broke even, George already knew how much Whitey had won. George took all the money and terribly shot Whiteys dog right in the car. Whitey was lucky George didn't shoot him.
 
Any old pics of Whitey that you know of?

DTL, I believe there may be a few on the Beard's old web site ! My good buddy CJ, is the only person I know of that walked around with a camera, in THOSE days !...JK, CJ (or am I) :D
 
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Too bad your memory isn't as good as Whitey's was.

DTL, I believe there may be a few on the Beard's old web site ! My good buddy CJ, is the only person I know of that walked around with a camera, in THOSE days !...JK, CJ (or am I) :D

I know you're always joking, too bad your memory isn't as good as Whitey's was. ;)

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I know you're always joking, too bad your memory isn't as good as Whitey's was. ;)

Too many wrinkles CJ, and the ears are too big...You must be forgetting my most recent pictures ?....By the way,
Are you forgetting my most recent pictures ? :p

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Whitey was a much better looking man

Too many wrinkles CJ, and the ears are too big...You must be forgetting my most recent picture..(Late 2014) :p

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I thought that was Whitey, not yourself. LoL - Whitey was a much better looking man. ;)
 
Bumpin' it up, Dick. Well told stories, Sir. I read the whole
thread and some of it was insane, especially when you
read between the lines about the German Shephard. The
post about the dog getting shot was disturbing, but I must
say, the thread was an entertaining read.
 
If I were naming these stories, this one might be titled…"Adventures with Detroit Whitey"...Whitey being Eddie Beauchene, who, along with Cornbread Red, turned Detroit into one of the greatest high dollar pool action cities EVER !.. There are few names more recognizable in the nether world of 'pool hustling' than Whitey !...He would be a unique individual in any scenario, in the pool world, I guess you would call him an "icon" !

Detroit Whitey, was the epitome of the conniving, take no prisoners, type of con man that most consider a hard core hustler to be... The stories surrounding him, border on the unbelievable, but believe it or not, most of them are true ! (up to, and including, 'selling his kids' !!!)..I do not believe there is ANYTHING Whitey wouldn’t do for money...The more I got to know him, the more I came to believe, that very early on in his life, he had made a pact with the devil, and he certainly managed to keep it...:embarrassed2:

I first met Whitey, in the late 50's, in Salt Lake City... I was an an established pool player with some success by then, but still had a LOT to learn..However, I had no fear of anyone !..My first session with him, was a grueling, all night 9-ball session, during which his experience, overcame my youth...Fortunately, he hung around long enough for me to get even, and then some !..He seemed like a decent enough guy, and with his smiling con, he was not a whiner when he finally got broke...So I half-way befriended him, and even tried to help him make a few bucks, to get back on his feet.

He put the bite on every ‘bitable’ person in the pool room, (including me) and I did not find out his true character, until I found out one of the scores I had given him money and sent him out on, turned out to be very lucrative, like about $1000...This was probably about $950 more than Whitey had hit town with !..So, in the dead of night, he slipped out of the room I was letting him stay in at my house, and split town..Without even a phone call to say ‘Thanks’..:(

I did not see Whitey again, until several years later, after I had moved to California...I settled in San Jose, and on a rare trip to LA, I went into the old downtown joint, on 4th st., and lo and behold, there sits Whitey, sweating a game... After telling him what I thought of his rotten, SLC move, he laid a hardship story on me, that almost had me feeling sorry for him again... But, at least I had a better idea of what I was dealing with..So, we kind of hooked up, and started hitting the bars, in downtown LA..:eek:

I was never a great fan of bar hustling, (especially in downtown LA) but it was pretty obvious Whitey was in his element...One guy he beat out of a few bucks, pulled a knife on him, and he showed no fear whatsoever !..With only a pool table separating them, Whitey dared him to come on, and said he would shove that knife right up his ass !...The guy backed down, and split from the joint...I thought for a minute, Whitey, (who had no knife, or gun) was going to chase him down !

I had to get back to San Jose and Whitey wanted to ride up there with me..I told him I had a job, and would not be able to spend any time hustling pool with him. Plus, I knew he didn’t have enough money for food and a room, so we bid adieu !…I was finally starting to get some ‘smarts’!

A year or so after that, my wife and I had to go to my grandma’s funeral in Detroit... I had a spare evening to kill, so I wandered into the old “Rathole” pool room, near downtown on Woodward, just to see what was going on. (the famous 'Rac Cue Club’ was in the far distant future at that time).. Lo and behold there sits Whitey !..He was the only one in the joint that knew me, and he gave me the ‘office’ to meet him in the john.

First question,”Ya got any money kid” ?.. I told him I had a few hundred. (I actually had a lot more, but as I said, I was getting smarter)..He told me to get a table, and hit a few balls around…He said there would be a guy coming in soon, who would go off real good...“He plays a little, but you should beat him ‘easy’, I’ll steer him into you...You can’t miss him, he’s got wavy red hair, and talks in a kinda loud hillbilly drawl”.

That was the first time I saw (or even heard of) “Cornbread Red”. I’m sure Whitey called him down there, and I saw him pointing me out to him.. Red sidled up to me, and asked me if I was “lookin' ta play some” !..I said "Yeah, I’ll play some cheap nine ball" !..Red said, “Whad’ya all call cheap”. I said, "$5 or 10 a game"...Red said “Nah, I’ll play some for $20”…I said OK..flip it !

After a little see-sawing, I soon saw I had no room to stall with this guy. I did eventually manage to get 3 or 4 games up on him. During that time, I overheard him muttering to Whitey..”I thought you said this dang kid didn’t play too good” ?..I’m pretty sure Whitey was just looking for a ‘jelly’, from whoever came out winner !..Long story short, Red saw he had a real grind on his hands, to try and get even. So he tried to move me to the snooker table... I said the only game I played there, was golf. (which it was) He passed on the golf, so we agreed to play some $5/10 pay ball..After about an hour or so, he got most of his money back.

I had told him I couldn’t play too long when we started, as I really did have an early flight home !..He was cool about it, we shook hands, and said we’d play again some time... And we did..but not ‘til about 35 years later, in a small LA tournament.. I won the tournament match, and we played some head-up $100 one pocket afterwards...Red got emptied out, but he took it like a gentleman... We parted on a pretty good note, and I invited him to come to Phoenix, if he wanted to play some more.. He did stop through a few weeks later, on his way home, with a backer in tow...We had another long one pocket session,...same end result !

Back to Whitey… I did not see him again, until quite a few years later...I was with my wife, on our way to visit our son in Placerville, Ca...We stopped for lunch in the small town of Folsum...There, on the window of the café, was a colorful flyer proclaiming that "World Champion Pool Player, Detroit Whitey”…Would be giving an exhibition that evening, at a local hardware store in town !

I guess curiosity got the best of me, and I drove by the hardware store to check it out... Sure enough, there was a new Gold Crown table in the entryway to the store, and inside sat our hero, just chilling out... He was minding the store for the owner, who he he introduced me to, when he came back from lunch. Apparently the owner was a real pool nut, and Whitey had got him to rent the table, so he could put on a few shows.

After about a 6-8 day visit with my son, we headed back home, and stopped again in Folsom... Just for kicks, I stopped by the hardware store... I noticed the pool table was gone, and as soon as the owner spotted me..He jumped up and started screaming “Where is he ? Where is that SOB” ! After a little convincing, that I was just a casual acquaintance of Whitey, and had no idea where he was, he told me what had transpired, in only ONE week !

It seems Whitey had gained his confidence, enough to let him run the store while he and his wife took a short vacation to Seattle ! He didn’t need to say much more, but the poor bastard felt the need to elaborate. It seems Whitey not only absconded with every dime the place took in, he also sold expensive items (power tools, compressors, etc.) for like half off !..The poor guy had not even finished an inventory to determine how much was gone ! I’m sure it was a VERY expensive vacation !.. I tip-toed out the door, with my most profound sympathy...That was the last time I saw Whitey.. It is hard to believe he may still be alive ??? :cool:

SJD

PS..I have a few more stories about Whitey, that are NOT fit for print on a public forum...But, this should count as three stories !...Hope you enjoyed them ! ;)

Watchez hasn't decided on post of 2015 yet....
....can you have a man win the award twice in one lifetime?
 
confessions of a pool hustler

great story about detroit whitey, i know of a few that you were talking about that is too crazy to post lmao
 
Me too. I am sure Dick has enough stories to fill one.

Thanks John and DTL..There may well be a book in there somewhere.. But I don't have the memory, the energy, nor enough time to put anything in book form!.. I do like sharing a few war stories, as they come to me. My reward is, that they may be enjoyed by some of the 'pool degenerates' (like us) who frequent these forums! ;)

PS..It would be impossible to spend over eight decades in this crazy pool racket, without having a few good tales, (or lies) to spin! :o ..FWIW..I do try to keep my stories as truthful as possible! ;)
 
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