Another rules question... ball falls in...

Clark_the_Shark

Clark_the_Shark

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Okay, so I read another thread that asked about the object ball falling in a pocket after seemingly coming to rest. This reminded me of a situation I had encountered sometime back.

The object ball came to rest in the jowels of the pocket by my opponent. I came up to shoot and the ball was still there. I shot the cue ball nearly into the point, but it was clear that it did not make contact with the object ball. The object ball then fell in and I continued to shoot. My opponent wasn't happy. What should have happened?

What happens if the cue ball comes to rest in the pocket for longer than 5-10 seconds and then IT falls in? Does it get restored like the object ball would as described in the other thread, or is it ball-in-hand?
 
Clark_the_Shark...You fouled, by failing to make contact with your legal object ball. Should have been ball in hand for your opponent. OB would be respotted where it was, on the edge of the pocket (unless it's a coin-op table...then it's just ball in hand with the CB for your opponent).

Scott Lee
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Clark_the_Shark said:
Okay, so I read another thread that asked about the object ball falling in a pocket after seemingly coming to rest. This reminded me of a situation I had encountered sometime back.

The object ball came to rest in the jowels of the pocket by my opponent. I came up to shoot and the ball was still there. I shot the cue ball nearly into the point, but it was clear that it did not make contact with the object ball. The object ball then fell in and I continued to shoot. My opponent wasn't happy. What should have happened?
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I agree with Scott on this. This is a matter of timing. Had the object ball dropped prior to the arrival of the cueball, both the object ball and cueball would be restored and the shooter would shoot again. However, since you already shot and it's certain you did not make contact with the object ball AND THEN the object ball fell, it could be argued you fouled and restoration would be provided for the incoming player. Honestly, I've never seen this happen but that's how I THINK it would be ruled.

Regarding your second question, the cueball is treated like any other ball. If it comes to rest at the edge of the pocket for the allotted time (usually 3-5 seconds), the ball is considered to have achieved its official position. If it falls afterward, it is restored. This is in contrast to any other resettling that may occur on the table that does not involve the cueball dropping in the pocket. If the cueball comes to rest and then "resettles" leaving you an entirely different scenario, you're stuck.
 
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